Quote:

"Elvis Presley is the greatest cultural force in the 20th century."

(Leonard Bernstein)


Quote:

"If you're an Elvis fan, no explanation is necessary; If you're not an Elvis fan, no explanation is possible."

(George Klein)


Quote:

"For a dead man, Elvis Presley is awfully noisy."

(Professor Gilbert B. Rodman)


 

Quote:

"Absolute id crashed into absolute superego...as the uptightset man in America shook hands with just about the loosest."

(Mark Feeney on the 'Elvis meets Nixon' meeting)


Quote:

"Elvis is everywhere"

(Mojo Nixon & Skid Roper)


Quote:

"...especially in the South, they talk about Elvis and Jesus in the same breath"

(Michael Ventura, LA Weekly)


Quote:

"The image is one thing and the human being is another...it's very hard to live up to an image"

 

(Elvis Presley, Madison Square Garden press conference, 1972)


Quote:

"Elvis was a major hero of mine. I was actually stupid enough to believe that having the same birthday as him actually meant something"

(David Bowie)


Quote:

"No-one, but no-one, is his equal, or ever will be. He was, and is supreme"

(Mick Jagger)


Quote:

"I wasn't just a fan, I was his brother...there'll never be another like that soul brother"

(Soul legend, James Brown)


Quote:

"Before Elvis there was nothing!"

(John Lennon)


Quote:

"There were rock 'n' roll records before Heartbreak Hotel, but this was the one that didn't just open the door…it literally blasted the door off its rusted, rotten, anachronistic hinges...producing, no propelling, a fundamental, primordial and unstoppable shift in not only musical, but social, political and cultural history"

(JNP, BBC website)


Quote:

"Elvis, the musician, is largely a relic belonging to the baby boomer generation...Elvis, the icon, is arguably one of the most potent symbols of popular culture"

( Dr. John Walker)


Quote:

"It [rock & roll] was always about Elvis; not just because he was Elvis, but because he was the big star"

(Bono from U2)


Quote:

"If they had let me on white radio stations back then, there never would have been an Elvis"

(Little Richard)


Quote:

"Elvis loved opera, and he especially liked Mario Lanza. He would watch The Student Prince which was set in Heidelberg, over and over again. He loved the power of the big voices. And he loved big orchestras. He liked real dramatic things"

(Marty Lacker in 'Elvis and the Memphis Mafia')


Quote:

"If life was fair, Elvis would be alive and all the impersonators would be dead"

(Johnny Carson)


Elvis' #1 Pop Singles on Cashbox, USA:

Heartbreak Hotel (1956)

Don't Be Cruel (1956)

Hound Dog (1956)

Love Me Tender (1956)

Too Much (1957)

All Shook Up (1957)

Teddy Bear (1957)

Jailhouse Rock (1957)

Don't (1958)

Stuck On You (1960)

It's Now Or Never (1960)

Are You Lonesome Tonight? (1960)

Surrender (1961)

Good Luck Charm (1962)

Return To Sender (1962)

In The Ghetto (1969)

Suspicious Minds (1969)

Burning Love (1972)

(The Cashbox chart is now defunct)


Elvis Facts:

Elvis was 5' 11" tall

 

Elvis' natural hair color was dark blond

 

Elvis' blood type was O Positive

 

Elvis' shoe size was 11D

 

One of Elvis'( maternal) ancestors, Morning White Dove (born 1800, died 1835), was a full-blooded Cherokee Indian

 

Elvis' uncle, Noah Presley, became Mayor of East Tupelo on January 7, 1936

 

The Presley family moved to Memphis on November 6, 1948

 

Elvis was issued a Social Security card in September 1950 with the # 409-52-2002

 

In 1954 some of the shows played by Elvis & The Blue Moon Boys were at the Overton Park Shell; the Bel-Air Club; Sleepy-Eyed John's Eagle's Nest Club and the Louisiana Hayride

 

Elvis' first manager was Scotty Moore, then Bob Neal, before signing with Colonel Tom Parker

 

The first DJ to play an Elvis record was Fred Cook (WREC), not Dewey Phillips (WHBQ). However, Dewey had the distinction of being the first DJ to play an Elvis record in its entirety

 

Elvis once dated famous stripper, Tempest Storm

 

Elvis was filmed from the waist up only during his 3rd and final appearance on The Ed Sullivan Show

 

In the 50s Elvis was friendly with rising stars, Natalie Wood, Robert Wagner and Ty (Bronco Lane) Hardin

 

Gladys Presley was 46 years old when she died, not 42, as many books suggest

 

The Roustabout album sold 450,000 copies on its initial release, 150,000 copies more than any of the preceding three soundtrack LPs. It was Elvis' last "soundtrack" album to reach #1 on the major album charts in the US

 

Elvis received $1m for filming Harum Scarum (aka Harum Holiday). The film grossed around $2m in the US

 

Elvis and Priscilla married on May 1, 1967

 

They were officially divorced on October 9, 1973

 

Elvis earns nearly $3.5m in 1968 and pays just over $1.4m in income tax

 

Elvis' return to live performing in Las Vegas on July 31, 1969 was in front of an "by invitation only" audience. Stars in attendance included Wayne Newton, Petula Clark, Shirley Bassey, Burt Bacharach and Angie Dickinson

 

On January 9, 1971, the national Junior Chamber of Commerce (Jaycees) announced Elvis as one of "The Top Ten Young Men of the Year". Elvis spoke at the official awards ceremony on January 16

 

"Elvis: Aloha From Hawai" made entertainment history on January 14, 1973, when it was beamed around the world by satellite. In the Philippines it drew 91% of the audience, in Hong Kong 70%. The viewing audience was estimated at more than 1 billion

 

For his 4 week Hilton Vegas season in August 1973 Elvis received $610,000

Sales of Elvis' 1973 album, Raised On Rock, were less than 200,000 units on its initial release

 

Elvis paid $2,959,000 in income tax in 1973

 

In December 1976 Elvis was sworn in as a special deputy sheriff of Shelby County (Memphis) by Sheriff Gene Barksdale

 

Elvis' final live concert was in Indianapolis on June 26, 1977

When Elvis died, he and his father Vernon, were embroiled in an FBI investigation called Operation Fountain Pen

More than 1,500 books have been published about The King in more than 30 languages

 

At Dec 2005 Elvis' biggest selling album in the US is the budget priced, Elvis' Christmas Album, with accredited sales of 9 million units (fingers crossed it reaches 10 million to give Elvis his first "Diamond" award)

 

By early2006, Sony BMG's "collectors label", Follow That Dream, had released more than 50 Elvis CDs

 

During the 1980s, tour guides at Graceland stated that Elvis' biggest selling album (globally) was Moody Blue, with sales exceeding 14 million

 

While Sony BMG estimates Elvis' global sales exceed 1 billion, the company is unable to substantiate this figure. Accredited sales worldwide are estimated to be less than 400 million

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"(If you'll) Only Believe"....

The Death of Elvis A(a)ron Presley -

Bill Beeny, the Elvis DNA issue & a lot more

Did Elvis really die in August 1977?

EIN:

  • provides a brief timeline history of the "is Elvis alive?" phenomenon
  • (in conjunction with private investigation consultants, JNA & Associates)
    probes the Bill Beeny DNA claims and identifies its fatal flaw
  • explores Dr Beeny's interesting background
  • looks at the "is Elvis alive" library
  • identifies websites of interest, and
  • throws in 14 sensational "is Elvis alive?" diversions along the way

This article was prepared by Nigel Patterson, with the assistance of JNA & Associates, Investigative Consultants

 

Read EIN's article on the Geraldo Rivera "20/20" specials about Elvis' death



Quote:

"And unless you understand that Elvis Presley was more than anything a spiritual leader of our generation, there's really no way to assess his importance, much less the meaning of his music"

Dave Marsh, rock critic for Rolling Stone magazine, in his obituary "How Great Thou Art"

 

"Is Elvis Alive?" - a timeline
Year
Event(s)
1974
A young singer, Jimmy Ellis gets a "one shot deal" with Challenger Records before moving to Boblo Records where one of his five singles is called "I'm Not Trying To Be Elvis". Ellis' voice is remarkably similar to Elvis', presenting a marketing dilemma for record companies
1977
Prior to his claimed death, Elvis allegedly meets Ellen Foster in March 1977 at the Graceland gates. He is struck by how closely Ms Foster resembles his mother, Gladys. It will later be claimed he rang Ms Foster on 14 August 1977 telling her he would not be leaving on 16 August for his scheduled concert tour
1977
Elvis A(a)ron Presley dies at his Graceland mansion in Memphis, Tennessee...or does he?
1977
Obscure book release "Elvis Presley Dead or Alive" by Tupelo based private investigator, Will Jima is published. So obscure, in fact, that it does not become part of "is Elvis alive" folklore
1977-early 1990s
A number of "underground" networks develop, and momentarily thrive, publishing irregular newsletters. The major drivers of these networks are names like Chanzes, Brewer-Giorgio, Smiley and Aitcheson. They serve to reinforce the "believers" faith with controversial claims (including death threats) and unverifiable facts. The newsletters have names like "The Elvis Beat" (Mary Smiley), "Elvis Lives" (Ron Collamore & Kate McNeil), "The gathering"* (Gail Brewer-Giorgio), "Notes for the Record (Linda Hood Sigmon), "Notes from Orion" (Anna Mae Strunk), "Search: Investigative Newsletter" (Phil Aitcheson/Presley Commission); "Spotlighters" (Carole Taylor Smith), and "The Elvis Special" (Maria Columbus & Jeannie Tessum, acting as a conduit for Steve Chanzes). Due to the personalities and politics involved, many of the "underground" groups waged a fierce, bitter battle with each other. While most of the networks wane, the advent of the Internet will see a number rise again from the late 1990s (see also 1994-2004) * ceased publication in June 1990
1978
Mike Joseph takes a photo at Graceland while visiting the mansion with his family. By late 1982-early 1983 he realises that in the photo's background is an image of someone who looks remarkably like Elvis, sitting watching the crowd from behind the screen door of the "pool house"
1978
Jimmy Ellis signs with Sun Records
1978

The duets album, "Jerry Lee Lewis and Friends", is released by Sun Records in November. Who is the mysterious singer dueting with Lewis who sounds just like Elvis?

1979
Geraldo Rivera's 'The Elvis Cover-Up' airs on ABC TV's new show, "20-20" sparking a wave of interest
1979
Author, Gail Brewer-Giorgio's novel, Orion, is published. It tells the story of a world famous singer who fakes his death. Talk of a film adaptation of the book fails to materialize. The author claims the book was "pulled" from bookstore shelves!
1979 - 1982
Shelby Singleton, owner of Sun Records, sees an opportunity to market Ellis as the masked singer, Orion. Agreement with Brewer-Giorgio is reached and the Orion bandwagon rolled on merrily for several years. After its peak, when record sales were sliding as most fans came to realise the much taller and facially dissimilar Ellis (see visual below) was not Elvis, the "Orion" phenomenon would include fanciful stories of a "second" Orion (you got it....Elvis) exchanging places with Ellis on stage. For the record, Orion (Ellis) owned 12 masks, and the singer, tired of his 'gimmicky' stage persona and its limitations, finally unmasked to a cheering audience of 123 during a performance at the Crown Inn (how appropriate!) in Kokomo, Indiana on 26 September 1982
1980
Platinum Publications publishes a newstand magazine, "The Elvis Cover Up"
1981
Steven C. Chanzes (aka Steven Crown; aka Al Jeffries), a Florida businessman, releases his book, "1935? Where Are You?". The book was published by Direct Productions, a company ordered to be involuntarily dissolved by Florida's Secretary of State a year earlier! The book is later republished with a new author, Al Jeffries!
1981
The name Charlie Hodge becomes embroiled in the Chanzes scam; Charlie would later successfully sue in 1983 (see also 2002)
1981
Chanzes commences publication of his "underground" newsletter, Eternally Elvis
1981
The second issue of Eternally Elvis introduces the Sivle Nora monologue tape, which will later become the key part of Gail Brewer-Giorgio's 'Is Elvis Alive' book & cassette package.
1983
Major Bill Smith, a Texas record producer initiates legal action against EPE, "the world's biggest monoploy", believing it is intefering with promotion of his eventual book about Elvis being alive, "Memphis Mystery (Requiem for Elvis)". The book is (privately) republished by Smith several times between 1987 and 1992
1984
A photograph of Muhammad Ali is taken purportedly showing "Elvis" in the background. It is not until 1989 that it gains media publicity thru the efforts of Gail Brewer-Giorgio. In 1991 on national television in the US, the Bill Bixby hosted, "The Elvis Conspiracy", reveals who the "Elvis" like person is...but of course the "believers" don't believe it
1985
The large hardcover novel, "Fairytale", is anonymously published. Later, sources claim the book is the work of noted Elvis photographer, Sean Shaver, and noted Elvis fan club president/author, Wanda June Hill
1985
Singer David Darlock appears on the GERALDO talkback show in April. Darlock admits he was paid $250 in April 1981 by the Elvis fan club, "Eternally Elvis" (operated by Steve Chanzes) to simulate the voice of Elvis for an album (others say it is the voice of Dan Willis). He also produced the signed contract of this deal! In well established conspiracy fashion, both claims are disputed by many "believers".
1987
"The Presley Arrangement", a novel by Monte Nicholson is first published (it is reissued twice, most recently by Living The Dream Press, in 2004). As with the 1979 Gail Brewer-Giorgio novel, Orion, there are colaims that 'The Presley Arrangement' mysteriously disappears from bookstores. Beyond his novel, the alleged sighting by the author of photos of Elvis boarding a helicopter at Graceland post his death on August 16, 1977 becomes one of the major elements fuelling the "is Elvis alive?" phenomenon
1988
Curb Records operated by Major Bill Smith releases the 45rpm single, "Spelling On The Stone" (CRD-10522). Its conspiratorially flavored lyrics inspire "believers", but its inability to receive more than localised air plays in southern US states precludes its success as a record seller
1988
"Is Elvis Alive?" by Gail Brewer-Giorgio is published. With its bonus, "The Elvis Tape", the book reportedly sells more than 1 million copies
1988
On the Larry King TV show, Mike Joseph exposes a link between Gail Brewer-Giorgio and the Sivle Group regarding the "poolhouse" photo. It appears the Sivle Group has over the years involved Steve Chanzes, Sivle Nora and Ellen Marie Foster
1988
The sighting of Elvis in Kalamazoo, Michigan by housewife, Louise Welling, sparks a wave of Elvis sightings around the world and fuels interest in the efforts of Brewer-Giorgio, et al
late 1980s
Fan club presidents on two continents receive late night visit from two mysterious "men in black" suggesting presidents cease investigations into Elvis being alive
1990
"The Elvis Files: Was His Death Faked?" by Gail Brewer-Giorgio is published
1990
A companion video "The Elvis Files" is released based around Gail Brewer-Giorgio's book of the same name. It is re-issued in DVD format in late 2005 (Europe) and early 2006 (Australia)
1990
The small, slimline book, "The Elvis Mystery", by John McRae is published
1991
"The Elvis Files" & "The Elvis Conspiracy" TV specials hosted by Bill Bixby air. Gail Brewer-Giorgio was instrumental in the first special which suggested Elvis may not have died in 1977, but her influence was diminished with the second special which took the opposite viewpoint
1991
"The Death of Elvis What Really Happened" by Charles C. Thompson II and James P. Cole is published
1992-1994
The self-appointed Presley Commission which includes Phil Aitcheson, Monte Nicholson, and Gail Brewer-Giorgio, conducts an investigation into Elvis' death. Its investigation results in the Presley Commission Report, a mysteriously elusive document very few appear to have seen (see also 2007)
1994
"Elvis The Unquiet Grace Or The True Story of Jon Burrows" by Belkis Cuza Male is published. There are English language and Spanish language editions
1994-2004

A series of websites and messageboards operate largely 'under the radar' offering a thrilling mix of conjecture, ineuendo, alleged fact and clever prosleytizing. At the forefront of this underground movement satisfying the "believers", is Mary Smiley. Her newsletter "The Gathering" moves from hardcopy to web publication. Mrs Smiley would claim that Elvis finally died in 1997 (see also 1997)

By 2005 most of the sites and boards had been discontinued or were inactive, and those that were left offered little that was new. Mary Smiley had disappeared off the radar apparently to write her own book. Even one of the "Johnny come lately" ideas, that look-alike Larry Blong was Elvis and had substituted for him on some of his recordings, was dieing a natural death. At its peak the Blong theory numbered several websites and messageboards. In a nushell this posting summarises the alleged Blong involvement:

'The real Larry BLong doubled for Elvis from 1969 until 1977 (August). He doubled on stage in place of Elvis, and performed on some of Elvis's recordings. He wasn't hired merely to go out the front gate while Elvis went out the back. Elvis was held prisoner in his home for years. Elvis was "insane," and a dual personality. He'd have episodes of being totally out of control.' (see also 1977-early 1990s)

mid 1990s
Mary Smiley makes the startling claim that the Presley Commission is financed by EPE. Mrs Smiley had earlier claimed Gail Brewer-Giorgio's books and activities were being funded by EPE, through the "Legends" organisation. Mrs Smiley claimed to have incorporation papers proving her assertions
mid 1990s
"Jon Burrows" credit card paper trail becomes a major discussion point in the Elvis "underground"
1995
Mary Smiley publishes Presley Commission memo indicating the Commission has had an interest in her activities (see Diversion #12 below)
1995
"True Disbelievers: The Elvis Contagion" by Serge Denisoff & George Plasketes is published. If ever a book from the Elvis world deserved a film treatment, this is the one, with its factual tale of mystery, countless twists and turns, duplicitous deeds, scams, double cross dealings, emotionally charged, colorful characters and undieing "belief"
1996
"Project Red Book" is discussed on the Elvis "underground" messageboards and websites. It involves the cover-up of a murder at Graceland!
1996
Elvis Aaron Presley finally dies, according to Mary Smiley, by now the most prominent prophet in the Elvis "underground" (see 1994-2004)
1998
"the king is dead" by Robert Holton in published (and reissued in 2004). Minute-by-minute account of Elvis' funeral arrangements based on the memoirs of Robert Kendall, Funeral Director at Memphis Funeral Home. Like the publication, "Funerals of the Famous Volume 3" (undated) from Kates-Boylston Publications, this is a solid, serious account of how logistical issues were handled for Elvis' funeral. It answers questions about Elvis' casket and offers clues about his autopsy
2001
"The Truth About Elvis Aron Presley In His Own Words" by Dr Donald Hinton with "Jesse" is published and a campaign is commenced to solicit donations from fans to support an ailing Elvis. In his book, Hinton claims to be treating Elvis 'from a distance' (as he's never met him face-to-face!)
2002
Steven Chanzes (now apparently not involved in the "is Elvis alive?" world), again falls foul of the law when his Florida based telemarketing company is found by the Department of Justice to have been soliciting contributions by misleading contributors that it is a registered charitable insitution (which it isn't) (see also 1981)
2003
Discussion on messageboards that Elvis and the "real" Lisa Marie Presley had lived in Switzerland since 1982
2003
"Content analysis" of "underground" messageboard postings suggests the prolific poster "Men In Black" is Mary Smiley and identifies inconclusive similarities between Mrs Smiley's postings and those of poster 'EPE' (however see reader feedback below from Sue (EP123) added 3 May 2006)
2003-2004
Now almost on its last legs, the Elvis "underground" again shifts into 'soap opera' overdrive with incredible posts about "Elvis' Secret Diaries", "Lisa Johansen is the real Lisa Marie Presley"; "Elvis commits murder as he sleepwalks"; "Elvis held captive in Graceland", "Was Elvis the victim of 'gum poisoning'?", "Palm Tree Murders"; ETA Murder Plot"; Elvis' companion from 1978-1981, Elizabeth Prince (who allegedly passed a lie detector test); and "The Mob slits Elvis' throat as he sleeps". There is also a claim that EPE's Jack Soden and Patsy Anderson admit Phil Aitcheson (Presley Commission) is on the EPE payroll
2003-2004
The motion pictures 'Home Alone' and 'Finding Graceland' are widely discussed on the "underground" boards. A "bearded" Elvis allegedly appears in 'Home Alone' while in 'Finding Graceland' many belive the hobo seen on the train is also Elvis. Click to view photos of the 'Home Alone' character
2003-2004
Dr Hinton is suspended from practising pending investigation of fraud charges to do with his "Elvis is alive" claims. In a scene reminiscent of Elvis' final years, it is claimed Hinton wrote prescriptions for 34,000 hydrocodone (an antitussive) pills for "Jesse/Elvis" from 1997 to 2002. Hinton is eventually cleared of fraud but realises he has been conned and publicly apologises. But just who was receiving the money intended for a sick Elvis??? (see Diversion #8)
2004
On one of her (now defunct) messageboards, Mary Smiley makes several postings about "Musical Watergate". They include: "Elvis lip synced the demos Ronnie Wilson made for "The Wonder Of You" and "In The Ghetto." They were "live" performances of Elvis performing, but the vocals were synched from demos or recordings of Ronnie Wilson."
2004
Memory Records in Czechoslovakia releases the CD, "Elvis The Cover-Up". It is a mix of radio/TV material and live recordings of Elvis in 1977
2004
"The Tupelo-Memphis Murders: A Psychological Study of Self-Destruction and Murder!" is published. Under a fiction guise it brings together most of the major Elvis conspiracies
2004
Independent film maker, Adam Muskiewicz, commences his research and a website for his film, The Truth About Elvis
2005
"Elvis' DNA Proves He's Alive" by Bill Beeny is published through Branden Books. A shorter edition had been earlier published privately by the author with the title, "DNA Proves That Elvis Is Alive!"
2005
A detailed but complicated "schematic", "Elvis/Jesse/Jon Burrows", linking around 50 names in the "is Elvis alive?" story is released. Copies sell on ebay for up to US$75.00
2005
"Decoding the Tupelo-Memphis Murders: A Psychological Study of Self-Destruction and Murder!" is released. The 'limited edition' pressing sells out in less than 3 months
late 2005-early 2006
The budget priced DVD "The Elvis Files" is released initially in Europe and then Australia. It is the DVD edition of Gail Brewer-Giorgio's original 1990 video promoting her book of the same name
2005
The TV documentary Death By Excess screens in England on Sky One (15 Dec)
2006
FatCat Entertainment releases the CD 'Elvis Presley Is Dead Live radio broadcasts from August 16th 1977 2:30 pm The Day Elvis Presley Died'
2006
EIN, with assistance from private investigation consultants, JNA & Associates, exposes the fatal flaw in Bill Beeny's Elvis DNA claim
2007
Due for publication: "The Presley Alternative", Phil Aitcheson & Deborah Wines (dec.) - the author's present the Presley Commission findings (see also 1992-1994 above and Diversion # 12 below)
2007?
Due for publication?: Mary Smiley's book about Elvis not dieing in 1977
2007
Due for publication: "Shadows of Reason: On the Elusive Trail of a Lost King - Elvis Presley, Post August 16, 1977", Dr. John Walker/Center for Studies in Popular Culture - academic examination of the "is Elvis alive?" arguments and alleged evidence

 

Jimmy "Orion" Ellis "sans" mask

 

"Is Elvis Alive?" - a brief discussion

It has always been EIN's position that Elvis Aaron Presley did die on August 16, 1977. We have long argued that most of the so-called evidence supporting the contrary argument can be quite easily dismissed or adequately explained. The spelling of Aaron/Aron, "alleged" photos of Elvis post August 1977, issues with the death certificate etc, all have prosaic explanations.

In True Disbelievers: The Elvis Contagion, Professors Denisoff & Plasketes provided a well researched and cogent alternative to the "is Elvis alive?" arguments, their case embedded with "facts", an element sorely missing from the rhetorical accounts of the false prophets peddling a clever story which appealed to deeply rooted psychological needs within the "believers". As pointed out by Denisoff & Plasketes the belief that Elvis is alive mirrors similar views throughout history, particularly those based around extreme religious beliefs.

A prominent example are Henry Miller's "Millerites" of New England, who fervently believed in the literal fulfillment of biblical prophecy, including the end of the world, and that the second coming of Christ would occur in 1843. When the expected events did not occur, bewilderment gave way to rationalisation and a renewed, stronger belief and commitment to what believers saw as the "truth".

The "is Elvis alive?" movement evolved in a similar way to the "Millerites". Starting out as a localised or small pocket movement, a slowly building proselytizing activity evolved with an increasing number of "educative" publications being distributed, and a growing number of media outlets taking an interest in the conspiratorial subject matter.

And when Elvis did not "come out", as announced so many times since the 1980s, the "believers", initially Sunday-punched, internally and externally rationalised the reasons why Elvis could not, at each time, reveal himself, and then continued their cause with their faith and vigour often stronger than before.

More recently, the Dr Donald Hinton debacle ended with Hinton publicly apologising after he realised he had been misled, and the money he thought he was receiving to help a "sick Elvis" was actually a cleverly designed scam by persons unknown (see Diversion #8 below).

Only two pieces of information are not so easily explained, at least on the surface. These are the:

  • unclaimed insurance policy held by Elvis when he died; and
  • DNA test report apparently supporting the idea Elvis did not die in August 1977

EIN has written to EPE (Graceland) several times since late 2005 asking for clarification on these two issues. We are yet to receive a reply.

What about the 'audio tape' and 'handwriting' evidence?

Voiceprint Stress/Spectograph Analysis

A third issue requiring possible attention is a fresh voiceprint (stress/spectograph) analysis (VSA) of the audio tape evidence offered in support of Elvis having faked his death. This evidence produced conflicting findings at the time which in itself raises a serious element of doubt about its validity.

Major advancements in voiceprint analysis in the past decade or so have led to courts being much more accepting of it. VSA today is far more sophisticated that in its infancy in the late 1970s, when quite rightly, courts generally were dismissive of VSA findings. A fresh analysis of "The Elvis Tape" could be interesting.

Forensic Handwriting Analysis

A potential fourth issue is that of forensic handwriting analysis of samples purported to be by Elvis post 16 August 1977.

JNA & Associates advised EIN that the admissibility of forensic handwriting analysis in US courts has waned since 1993 when the Supreme Court ruled in the case of Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals.

JNA & Associates stated: "Handwriting analysis is generally regarded as an art rather than science, so far lacking the critical 'test and validate' methodology required by science and the courts".

As a further example regarding acceptance of forensic techniques in court, commentator, Cecil Adams wrote, "In 2002 one judge even restricted testimony based on fingerprint analysis, saying he was unconvinced the technique was a science rather than a mix of craft and guesswork".

 

The Bill Beeny Case (see also Diversion #9)

In his book, Elvis' DNA Proves He's Alive, former Baptist minister, Bill Beeny, claims he has not only viewed a copy of the full Elvis autposy report, but also accessed, and had tested, tissue samples allegedly taken from Elvis' body in the mid 1970s and his autopsy in August 1977.

So who is Bill Beeny and what are the credentials behind the DNA samples he obtained?

EIN has dug deep to provide background and questions regarding these two questions. As part of our examination and analysis of the Beeny claims we sought the assistance of private investigation consultants, JNA & Associates.

Beeny's incredible story involves him being invited to the home of a prominent Memphis doctor who had in his possession the aforementioned items. The doctor had heard one of Beeny's many media interviews on Rock 102 radio station in Memphis about the 'Is Elvis Alive?' theme and contacted Beeny's son, Andrew, following the interview. Andrew is apparently a prominent lawyer in St. Louis.

The Memphis doctor had obtained the autopsy report and tissue samples from Dr Harold Sexton, one of the pathologists involved in the autopsy of Elvis.

Apparently, Dr Sexton was fearful of all the media and public suspicions about a cover-up and wild rumours following Elvis' "alleged' death, that he made a copy of the report and other documents relating to Elvis' "alleged" death to protect himself.

Beeny states (p.13): "The cries of "cover-up" dominated headlines."

And not only did the mystery doctor have the full autopsy report, but he also had samples of Elvis' DNA from his two liver biopsies and autopsy!!! Beeny (p.14) says the doctor had "...actual body tissue of Elvis".

Beeny also states that the Presley family requested an autopsy as if the authorities had initiated it it would have had to be made public. This is a true statement in that family initiated autopsies cannot be made public without the consent of the family.

In the absence of being able to examine and have retested the tissue samples obtained by Dr Beeny, it is not possible to directly substantiate the findings in his book. Despite this, EIN has examined its contents and found a fatal flaw in its case.

 

The Autopsy Report - Issues

The major issues Beeny offers about the full autopsy report is that, like the death certificate, it states Elvis' weight was 170lbs and the autopsy apparently revealed a long scar, running perpindicular on the chest. The scar had been healed for some time. Elvis obviously weighed more than 170lbs at the time of his death and there was no record of an operation which would account for the scar.

Accordingly, Beeny suggests (p.14) that these two issues imply "...this cadaver could not possibly be Elvis."

EIN Response: Assuming Beeny did read an autopsy report purporting to be Elvis', could it have been a clever fake? This of course begs the question...why would a prominent Memphis doctor be involved with a bogus autopsy report? There are a number of possible answers, from the doctor himself believing the report to be bona fide, to an attempt to obtain financial gain (although this is not a matter suggested in Dr Beeny's book).

 

Beeny claims the Memphis doctor had biopsy test specimens relating to liver biopsies Elvis had done on 15 October 1973 and 28 January 1975. These were tested (compared) by Laboratory Corporation of America (LabCorp) against body tissue from the August 1977 autopsy.

Had the tissue samples from the two liver biopsies matched with the tissue sample from the autopsy this would have indicated Elvis was indeed dead. However, Lab Corp found the samples did not match. To Dr Beeny this means only one thing: that Elvis is alive!

Beeny's argument is centered around Baptist Memorial Hospital records confirming the liver biopsies are Elvis'. Proving that the samples tested were indeed taken from the body of Elvis Aaron Presley is only one obstacle Dr Beeny needs to prove.

EIN Response: Of course, the non-matching samples could have other explanations but these aren't canvassed by Dr Beeny. For instance, there could have been a mix-up with the samples or they could have been bogus.

Also, assuming there was a cover-up/conspiracy involving a donor body, wouldn't those behind the cover-up ensure there was no cross-evidence? If they went to great lengths to substitute a body in the casket, wouldn't they also ensure the "right" (ie. Elvis' DNA) was contained in the medical records?

Dr Beeny's claim, is by itself insufficient, as it fails to satisfy the crucial "chain of custody" principle as the records and biopsies were obtained from a third party, the unnamed Memphis doctor.

The chain of custody (rules of evidence) principle

In a court of law Dr Beeny would need to prove the samples were indeed from Elvis' body and satisfy the "chain of custody" principle:

There are strict rules at law regarding the "chain of custody" for evidence (eg. DNA samples). It requires that there is a register recording all entries of movement, and to whom, in a chronological order.

On this basis alone questions must be asked about the authenticity/validity of the Beeny samples:

Where were they over the years?

How were they secured?

Who had (access to) them?

What did they do with them?

Are we talking about the same item (ie. Elvis' sample/s)?

These questions open up a Pandora's Box of arguments undermining Beeny's claim about the validity of the DNA samples. Because the "Beeny" samples were outside a carefully controlled "chain of custody" environment for two decades, any number of people could have tampered with or substituted the samples over the years!

In court you must be able to "prove a continuing chain of custody and control" for the evidence.

The slightest hint of "third party" tampering or opportunity for tampering with the evidence, and your case is scuttled. This of course doesn't mean the samples aren't genuine...but once the "chain of custody" is breached, definitive proof is not possible.

The "chain of custody" principle begs an important question: why didn't Bill Beeny's son, Andrew, a noted St. Louis attorney who would be very familiar with the importance of the principle, draw it to his father's attention?

 

Does Bill Beeny have a case?

Realistically, what do we make of Bill Beeny's story? There are a number of fundamental questions at the heart of his case which need to be asked and satisfactorily answered:

Q: Did the Presley family request the autopsy?

EIN's response: This claim is true; Vernon Presley signed an autopsy permission form. However, it was not signed immediately after Elvis' death as Beeny claims (p.13), rather it was signed after Dr Nick had spoken to Vernon about it.

In the context of his conspiracy driven narrative, Beeny's use (p.13) of the words:

"immediately after Elvis' so-called death, the family ordered an autopsy performed on the body, on the advice of their lawyers..."

implies something more sinister, and ignores other reports that it was in fact Dr Nick who persduaded Vernon Presley to sign the autopsy permission form.

Q: How valid is Beeny's claim that if the autopsy is initiated by the medical authorities the report must be made public and in reverse it can be sealed for 50 years if sought by the deceased's family?

EIN's Response: Following an internet and library search EIN was unable to fully establish the rules governing release and protection of autopsy reports in Shelby County. However, we did find evidence supporting Beeny's claim (Guralnick, p.649).

Our research also found that in a number of cases involving an autopsy, the state had refused to provide autopsy details including in the case Ronald Patrick Swiney v. State (1993-1999: death of Betty Snow). What this indicates is that the state does not always move to make autopsy results public. Beeny's release of autopsy claim is not materially affected by this finding.

Q: Would a copy of the autopsy report have helped or protected Dr Sexton, as is claimed?

EIN's response: This is a difficult question to answer. Without knowing exactly what Dr Sexton was fearful of, if he in fact actually was, it is hard to judge Beeny's claim. On the surface there doesn't appear to be a tangible argument to support the claim, particularly considering any conspiracy idea was several years away from media prominence.

Q: Bill Beeny has read the full autopsy report?

EIN's response: We only have his word for it.

Q: Who is the mystery Memphis doctor who allegedly has a copy of the full Elvis autopsy report and tissue samples?

EIN's response: Only the Beeny's know.

Q: Is it feasible Dr Sexton was able to take and retain part of Elvis' DNA (tissue samples) from both of his liver biopsies and autopsy?

EIN Response: While it is plausible Dr Sexton could have made a copy of the autopsy report, it stretches credibility that he could have taken and kept samples from Elvis' two liver biopsies and autopsy without their absence being noticed. DNA samples are subject to very strict storage and control arrangements, extending to the amount of sample used. (see Bill Beeny reponse to EIN article dated 11 May 2006 below)

Q: Were there widespread claims of a cover-up about Elvis' death in 1977 (as indicated by Dr Sexton's concerns)?

EIN's response: Actually NO, the Is Elvis Alive? theory only took off in 1979 following the Geraldo Rivera TV investigation, "The Elvis Cover-Up", and the publication of Gail Brewer-Giorgio's novel, "Orion". Certainly, from August 1977 there were small pockets of interest in the idea Elvis was still alive, but there were no screaming headlines saying "cover up" until years later. The conspiracy theory had its heyday in the 1980s with the raft of Elvis sightings from Kalamazoo in the US to Newcastle in Australia.

But in 1977 EIN is not aware of any major headlines crying "cover-up".

Q: The tested tissue samples are all from from the body of Elvis Aaron Presley?

EIN's response: Beeny's claim that all three samples are from Elvis is insufficient. Given the lack of 'chain of custody', one or more of the samples may not have been from Elvis' body.

 

Conclusions

So is Bill Beeny's book a clever scam, or does it actually contain evidence supporting the idea that Elvis did not die at Graceland on August 16, 1977?

The bottom line: In the absence of physically being able to substantiate the validity of the tissue samples it is not possible to discredit the Lab Corp test results.

However, there are flaws in the Beeny argument as outlined above, and crucially, his DNA evidence will not stand up in a court of law as a secure "chain of custody" has been broken.

The reality is that Dr Beeny's case totally unravels on this one, crucial point! It is its fatal flaw!

This now leaves only one material issue in the "is Elvis alive" conspiracy argument...the alleged unclaimed insurance policy. The organisation best placed to clarify this issue is of course EPE.

Why EPE does not answer questions on, or clarify this issue, is anyone's guess.

 

 

Who is Bill Beeny?

Born on September 1, 1926 in Madisonville, Kentucky, Bill Beeny was a Baptist minister and self-declared segregationist who led right-wing organizations in St. Louis, Missouri during the 1960s. Beeny, whose father died when he was nine years old, was one of five children.

During his late teens and early twenties, he worked as a tavern porter and manager in Eldorado, Illinois, the hometown of the woman he married at age eighteen. Beeny battled recurrent tuberculosis as a young man; during one painful recuperation, as he later explained, he "got disgusted with my life and was converted to the Christian faith." He was ordained by the Southern Baptist Convention in 1947, and during the 1950s he attended Shurtleff College in Alton, Illinois and the American Divinity School in Chicago, Illinois. Over the course of the following decade, Beeny was active in domestic anti-communist campaigns and led local and national efforts directed against civil-rights and student-movement leaders. Opposite - Bill Beeny

He received his B.A. degree from Shurtleff and Georgetown Colleges. After working with underprivileged children he was granted a Doctor of Divinity degree.

In 1961, Beeny picketed Washington University, urging the House Committee on Un-American Activities to investigate his allegations of communist “infiltration” among university faculty -- especially those who had signed a nuclear-test-ban petition organized by California chemist and Nobel laureate Linus Pauling. He also participated in national petition drives urging the Committee to investigate the Southern Christian Leadership Conference and the Black Panthers.

Beeny's political and religious radio broadcasts, which began with one station in Alton, Illinois, were eventually heard on dozens of stations across the country. At the same time, the minister operated an "anti-communist" youth ranch in Wright City, Missouri; the ranch, according to Beeny's claim, drew upwards of1,500 campers per summer during the early 1960s. Beeny faced constant legal problems over questionable financial and licensing practices in running his Missouri Youth Ranch and his Denver-area radio station "The Voice of Reason."

In 1960, accusations and lawsuits over an allegedly fraudulent bond issue to finance his ranch and broadcasting operations forced Beeny from his position as pastor of the New Testament Baptist Church, which he had founded in a St. Louis storefront five years earlier. After his resignation, Beeny took up the pastorship of the St. Louis Baptist Temple, a position he would hold until 1969.

In the 1966, Beeny formed the Counter-Revolutionary Organization on Salvation and Service (CROSS), with chapters in Miami, Florida and St. Louis. Working out of Beeny's Baptist church at 4249 Gibson Avenue, CROSS's St. Louis chapter organized several controversial "home-defense" seminars. The meetings wereintended to instruct members in fire-arms and survivalist tactics in order to fend off what Beeny called "those so-called civil-rights groups now reported to be stocking weapons" in preparation for a revolutionary uprising.

Running for Missouri Lieutenant-Governor as a Democrat in 1968 -- one of his many unsuccessful bids for state and local office -- Beeny endorsed the presidential campaign of segregationist Alabama Governor George C. Wallace. Beeny's own campaign platform, as outlined in his newsletter "The Herald of Missouri," urged "states' rights," opposed open-housing legislation and bussing for school integration, and advocated a "tough-on-crime" policy that would include ordering police to "shoot to kill" in response to civil disorders.

The minister relocated to Wright City, Missouri in 1969 after a fire at his St. Louis church. There, he operated a general store and more recently has sought to popularize his theory that the American singer Elvis Presley,who is generally believed to have died in 1977, is still living. Beeny founded the Elvis is Alive Museum in his Wright City store space, and, in 2005, he published his book Elvis' DNA Proves He's Alive (Boston: Branden Books, 2005), ISBN: 0828320896. His other Elvis related works include a booklet suggesting there is a "second" Lisa Marie Presley.

Beeny maintains a website dedicated to Presley and to his own museum at Elvis is Alive

Beeny has also resumed broadcasts of pre-recorded religious, political and Elvis Presley content, this time via the internet at Mighty Stream Radio

Beeny is married to Laura, and has two children, Billy and Kayla. Interestingly, his book, Elvis' DNA Proves He's Alive, refers to his son being Andrew Beeny.

In mid April 2006 Dr Beeny distributed his latest newsletter by email. It included news of his latest tape: 'War of the Worlds' which tells of the Atomic Clock...:

Image from Bill Beeny's April 2006 newsletter:


Websites of Interest:

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P.W. Aitcheson (Presley Commission)
Elvis DNA (Bill Beeny)

 

The "is Elvis alive" library (select titles)

 

Upcoming books on the "is Elvis alive?" conspiracy theme

 

Due out around July-August 2006 is:

Elvis Decoded - A Fan's Guide to Deciphering the Myths and Misinformation, Patrick Lacy

Interestingly, publication of two other books due out in mid 2006 about the is Elvis alive? theme has slipped to 2007. The books are:

The Presley Alternative, Phil Aitcheson & Deborah Wines (dec.) - the Presley Commission case

Shadows of Reason: On the Elusive Trail of a Lost King - Elvis Presley, Post August 16, 1977, Dr. John Walker/Center for Studies in Popular Culture - academic examination of the case for and against

Mary Smiley is also reportedly writing her account of the issue (title and publication date unknown)

 

Some diversions

Diversion #1: Cover-up at Graceland

From all accounts it appears members of the Memphis Mafia present at Graceland when Elvis died conducted a "clean up" of his bedroom and bathroom. Medications were removed and the spot where a dieing Elvis had vomited on the deep shag carpet was cleaned before county officials arrived to inspect the death scene. In terms of hindering an effective analysis of the cause of Elvis' death these were two significant issues. Two tell-tale empty syringes were inadvertently left in Elvis' upstairs den/office.

It is reported that Dan Warlick, investigator for the Shelby County Medical Examiner's Office was less than impressed by the total absence of drugs of any kind, including normal household analgesics. Together with the two empty syringes, these matters fuelled Warlick's natural suspicions. He was also suspicious of the sparkling bathroom and its sanitized smell. See Cole & Thompson for a more detailed account of these issues.


Diversion #2: The "Second" Orion issue

In his book, Beeny devotes a section to the Jimmy Ellis/Orion issue. While he doesn't milk the Jimmy Ellis/Orion is Elvis argument he latches on to the second "Orion" who "allegedly" switched places with his masked counterpart during an Orion concert. Jimmy Ellis gave so many interviews after he removed his mask about how ridiculous the whole Orion is Elvis thing was that nothing more on this baseless assertion needs to be said.


Diversion #3: EPE was behind the Sivle Nora LP!

Mary Smiley, one of the Elvis "underground's" most prominent players claims Elvis Presley Enterprises, Inc authorized the "Do You Know Who I Am" album by Sivle Nora. According to Mrs Smiley, if you look in the groove of the album, it says Elvis, Inc!

EIN Response: Yes, 'Elvis, Inc' is in the groove of the album. However, this could simply be a bit of fun on the people behind its release. And in any case, EPE does not identify itself as 'Elvis, Inc' (although author, Sean O'Neal, did in the title of his fascinating 1996 book, 'Elvis Inc.' (but that was a device to make a point about EPE's operation)


Diversion #4: Jesse Garon died in August 1977...not Elvis!

The most ridiculous claim was made on the "underground" messageboards in October 2005 when "dl" posted this message:

"Elvis visited me just yesterday and he told me, that he was definitely alive. His twin brother Jesse G. who worked for him as a double on some of the concerts (the colonel booked so many engagements, that Elvis had his twin brother do some of his shows) died in 1977. After that the king worked exclusively as a drug agent for the government and therefore didn't do any recordings. But he's glad that everyone likes the TTWII and EOT outtakes that he was able to smuggle out of the vaults from Turner. He wants the fans to have this material and he told me that he will release a 1974 concert from his Tahoe engagement under the name of "Last Tango In Tahoe" very soon."


Diversion #5: Dr Nick's theory circa 1990

In 1990 Dr Nick began preparing his account of what happened to Elvis. Although his story outline was not published (the synopsis was rejected by numerous publishers), his theory of Elvis being murdered by a blow to the back of the head garnered considerable tabloid space in his name and by others running with the story. The motivation for Dr Nick appears to have been largely reactionary, in response to accusations that he had in effect killed Elvis via the staggering number of medications he prescribed for him.

A synopsis of Dr Nick's "murder" theory is discussed in John Parker's book, Elvis The Secret Files (Anaya Publishers, London, 1993, ISBN: 1854700391) as do Thompson and Cole in their absorbing book, ‘The Death of Elvis’. Dr Nick’s co-writer, Murray Silver, had previously written Great Balls of Fire, the biography of Jerry Lee Lewis.

In April 2006 there was news that Dr Nick will finally be releasing a 10 chapter memoir of his time with Elvis. The, as yet untitled book, is due for release in 2007.

It also would be interesting if we could hear the tapes of 1980 interviews between Dr Nick and Chief Investigator to the district of Memphis, Larry Hutchinson. The interviews were recorded during the investigation into the alleged over-prescribing of drugs to Elvis.


Diversion #6: Elvis doctor in gruesome Elvis tour

Yahoo UK & Ireland News, March 2006

Elvis Presley's doctor is touring (the US) with a ghoulish exhibition of the drugs taken by the star at the time of his death in 1977. Dr George Nichopolous - known in Memphis, Tennessee as Dr. Nick - has already attracted 10,000 customers to his show in America. In a recent show in Mississippi, he showed the remnants of 13 medications that could have contributed to Elvis' death. He boasts, "The prescriptions were all filed a day or two before he died. Some are to do with his arthritis and high blood pressure. There are drugs for his migraines, sinus and digestive problems and things to help him sleep."

Dr Nichopolous lost his licence for over-prescribing drugs. There are no plans at present to bring the macabre tour to Europe.


Diversion #7: Saying "No" to Elvis' Dr. Nick

by Joal Ryan, E Online!
Jan 21, 1998

When you're a doctor and your most famed patient is, well, dead, image problems go with the territory. Or so George Nichopoulos is learning.

Nichopoulos--once and forever known to Elvis Presley-ologists as Dr. Nick, the King of Rock 'n' Roll's longtime physician and supplier of prescription drugs--was back in front of the medical examiners board in Tennessee Tuesday, trying to get his doctor's license back. But no dice--his request was rejected.

The board stripped Dr. Nick of his black bag two years ago when he was judged to be over-prescribing medication to 13 patients, including another famed (albeit, still-living) rocker, Jerry Lee Lewis, from 1987-1990.

Similar charges were levied against Dr. Nick shortly after Elvis was found face down in the shag carpet of his Graceland bathroom in 1977, dead at age 42. (Dr. Nick was already on the scene when the paramedics arrived.) And while coroner's officials declared cardiac arrest the official culprit, the Elvis' Valley of the Dolls lifestyle did not go unnoted. Traces of several prescription drugs--Amytal, codeine, Demerol, morphine, Nembutal, Placidyl, Valium and Valmid included--were found in Presley's stomach. It was later revealed that Dr. Nick had given Elvis access to 19,000 doses of medication in the final two-and-a-half years of his life.

In 1979, Nichopoulos was indicted on multiple charges of being fast and loose with prescriptions for Elvis, Lewis (again) and a dozen other pill-poppers. His license was suspended for three months in 1980. But a jury cleared him of all criminal charges in 1981. With those trials behind him and Elvis 20 years-plus in the grave, Dr. Nick, now 70, can't understand why he still takes heat for the King's death. "I worked to slow the flow of drugs that Elvis had been using for years," Nichopoulos told the Associated Press prior to yesterday's medical-board hearing. "He would get furious with me and go out of town to get what he wanted. I tried very hard to help him." Dr. Nick says he has also tried very hard to get himself help. He told the medical board that he has undergone counseling to help him "just say no" the next time a patient asks for a bunch of pills.

But in the end, board members just said no to Dr. Nick.


Diversion #8: Hinton loses licence

'Elvis doctor' loses his right to prescribe drugs
By KARA CHILDERS The Examiner, March 2003

Former Independence psychiatrist Donald Hinton ­ who claimed he treated Elvis Presley ­ gave up his registration with the Drug Enforcement Administration after a federal investigation and more than a year of criticism from the public and state medical boards. By relinquishing his authority to prescribe controlled substances for his patients, the psychiatrist can no longer order medications his patients need ­ including Valium, narcotics, amphetamines and tranquilizers. Missouri's Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs also said Hinton is not registered to prescribe controlled substances in the state. Hinton practices at the Picture Hills Psychiatry Center, north of Kansas City but was not available for comment. Hinton formerly worked at Independence Regional Health Center.

In November, the Missouri Board of Registration for the Healing Arts reprimanded Hinton and placed him on probation for five years after a woman concerned with Hinton's claims of treating Elvis filed a complaint. An investigation showed Hinton issued "improper and excessive prescriptions," Tina Steinman, the board's executive director, told The Examiner in November.

The settlement report and probation did not connect the Hinton's patient with Elvis, although Hinton told The Examiner in December 2001 that he is treating Elvis for "severe arthritis." Hinton claims he has been in contact with Elvis for more than five years and says he helped Elvis write his book ­ "The Truth About Elvis Aron Presley, In His Own Words." The book says Elvis staged his death in 1977 and assumed the identity of his twin brother Jesse, who was stillborn.

Although Hinton predicted Elvis would come forward ­ at first in August 2002 on the 25th anniversary of his death and then by January 2003 ­ he has remained quiet about his supposed relationship to Elvis since the November reprimand.


Diversion #9: Presley Proof Positive??

by John Herrington, WMV Web News Cleveland, March 21, 1997

There still is a lot of local controversy over whether DNA test results proved that Dr. Sam Sheppard did not kill his wife. Many still believe he committed the crime nearly 43 years ago, regardless of DNA findings that indicate otherwise.

Another court hearing--they say it will be a full-scale trial--is expected on the matter later this summer. So, now, consider this news release from a few days ago:

                "Categorical proof that Elvis Aron Presley was
                not buried August 16, 1977, came this week when
                a DNA laboratory on the East Coast gave a written
                18-page report on two slides of tissue sent them
                for analysis."
            

Whoa! There are those who have long believed that Elvis is still alive. Foremost among them is Phil Aitcheson of the "Presley Commission Liaison Office" in Moneta, Virginia. (See "WMV Web News" story from Jan. 8: "Happy Birthday Elvis.")

And now, the head of the "Elvis is Alive Museum" in Wright City, Missouri, says that that laboratory (in North Carolina) studied two tissue samples, one taken from a liver tissue biopsy done on a living Elvis Presly in 1975, and another taken from an autopsy of the body, said to be that of Presley in August, 1977. The news release says that after an 8-to-10 week examination, "...the laboratory's report concludes positively that these two specimens are from two different people."

In other words, whoever is buried at Graceland is not Elvis Presley; or, at least, so says the "Elvis is Alive Museum" and so concurs the Presley Commission executive. The head of that museum in Missouri is Bill Beeny. Mr. Beeny is a successful, 70-year-old businessman, who owns a real estate development company, two restaurants, and an Elvis gift shop in a St. Louis mall, and who just a few years ago became convinced that Elvis is not dead.

His museum with Elvis research documents and other items is a 600-square-foot building behind his "50's Cafe" in Wright City, just off Interstate 70 about 50 miles west of St. Louis. Beeny has had the cafe about 10 years; he built the museum after he became interested in the Presley mystery (as it has been called) some four years ago.

"When I first got interested," Beeny recalls, "I thought all this talk about Elvis being alive was ridiculous. But, then," he says, "I found so many inconsistencies during my studies of information that I came to the conclusion he did not die August 16, 1977, and that he is still living." Aitcheson and Beeny believe that it is not Presley, but "a donor body" that was declared to be the dead Elvis. Who's body? Several names have been suggested, among them the stepson of Col. Tom Parker. Parker guided Presley's career for 22 years; he died this past January at the age of 87.

His stepson, according to reports, died at about the same time Presley's body was reportedly found on a bathroom floor at Graceland. Why fake Elvis' death? The contention is that Presley's life was in danger from a Mafia group because of testimony that Presley allegedly was going to give in a federal case.

"There were many death threats against Elvis and his daughter," Beeny says and Aitcheson agrees, saying Elvis may be in the federal witness protection program. Beeny says Presley's health and financial situation also were problems and that "...he just wanted to disappear."

Okay: so now they say there is this DNA report that says it isn't The King who is buried at Graceland...what next?

Beeny says he's not sure. He says he's negotiating with some national television programs about appearances (he has been on radio and television shows many times concerning Presley research), and he says there may be a book in the making over all this. Hmmm.

Well, if Elvis is still out there someplace, one might wonder if he might show up at Public Music Hall here in Cleveland next month to see "Blue Suede Shoes," another local showing of the Cleveland Ballet's production set to Presley songs. The rock ballet premiered here in Cleveland last May 29. It came back for encore performances in September, and the four Music Hall shows (April 11-13) are warm-up for the ballet's nine-city international tour of "Blue Suede Shoes."

Elvis certainly would be welcome! (Wouldn't he?) Heck; he might even want to stroll over to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for a look-around before the Hall ups its prices by a couple of bucks in May. During April, the Rock Hall is offering 2-for-1 admissions while much of the facility's main exhibition hall is shut down during the building of a new display that will highlight rock's psychedelic period from 1965-1969. (Oh, and another thing: Beeny and Aitcheson aren't sure just who is buried in Elvis' place; there are no tissue samples from whoever it is while he was alive to compare with Elvis samples. (And how did they get those Elvis tissue samples anyway? Beeny says they don't want to talk about that, but that "...we're covered, legally." He says he paid for the testing.)

Meanwhile, business at the "50's Cafe" and the "Elvis is Alive Museum" always picks up when nice weather returns. And it is springtime, now. If you happen to be on I-70 between Kansas City and St. Louis, and are interested, you can't miss the cafe: it has an Elvis theme--there's a 16-foot high statue of The King out front, and more than 3,000 Presley pictures inside--and it's just off the interstate on the north service road at the Wright City exit. The museum is the annex in back.

And in Memphis, the folks at the much bigger edifice really don't think too much of all this stuff about Elvis still being alive. If one were to listen closely, one might even hear something that sounds like, "You're Nothing but a Hound Dog," wafting from Graceland toward Wright City, Missouri, and Moneta, Virginia.

But then again, maybe not.


Diversion #10: Elvis, or someone else, was murdered in Graceland!

"JustMe" posted this message in August 2003 on an Elvis "underground" messageboard:

"It's well documented a murder occurred August 1977. Its just a question of the identity of the "murder" victim. Was it the "double" who was to go on Tour? Who committed the murder? Doctor Nick stated on television it was David Stanley who committed the murder. The murder was mentioned on Geraldo, and other talk shows.

Donna Presley Early mentions the murder in her book, and stated that Vernon asked Dick Grob to investigate David Stanley's whereabouts the time of the "murder." David, himself, stated in his book that Vernon suspected him of the murder. Thompson and Cole mention the Murder in their book, but reported some people thought it was Elvis who committed the murder. Dick Grob mentions investigating the murder in his book. The murder is common knowledge among "some" Gatheringites.

Ellen Marie Foster mentions the "murder" in one of her letters to Pat Elliott, and indicated the body was poisoned with "arsenic" in his whiskey. Ellen says simply it was "arsenic in whiskey."

Ellen looked like Gladys Presley, and Elvis gave her his mother's ring. Ellen donated it to a museum...... Ellen was an "insider," and was good friends with Aunt Delta."

EIN Comment: Ms Foster is deceased.

Charmaine Voisine feedback: I am a personal friend of Donna's. There is no such thing in here book.  I have her book.

EIN comment: Charmaine is right. This is another example of how some people in the Elvis underground make false claims. The claim is however covered and discounted in the very interesting book by Memphia Mafia member, Dick Grob, 'The Elvis Conspiracy'.


Diversion #11: Elvis living in his plane!

"The Elvis Special" ran this item in its newsletter:

'We have received startling news from four different people from Louisville, Kentucky. A TV news program ran a story that a plane has been found registered to Elvis and apparently being lived in by an unknown person. The plane is large, with all the comforts of home and even has a swimming pool area. People are asking if Elvis is living in it.'


Diversion #12: The Presley Commission 'watching' Mary Smiley


Diversion #13: Elvis insane from childhood!

Messageboard posting by JOEORMARY May 21, 2003

Elvis was "insane" since childhood! He was a victim of incest, and physical abuse! He was a dual personality! This is in books! The Fairytale book for one reports the physical abuse in vivid detail! His mother locked him in the shed with rats, and he had gotten so many beatings, the broken bones showed up on X Ray's years later! Gladys was mean, vicious, and cruel. She'd hit him with anything Elvis was "insane" since childhood! He was a victim of incest, and physical abuse! He was a dual personality! This is in books! The Fairytale book for one reports the physical abuse in vivid detail! His mother locked him in the shed with rats, and he had gotten so many beatings, the broken bones showed up on X Ray's years later! Gladys was mean, vicious, and cruel. She'd hit him with anything she had in her hands, big iron skillets or clubs! Don't believe it! Who cares! You will not be permitted to control my reports! I told you where to find the physical abuse: Fairytale is ONE of the books!

The "den" scene aluded to what occurred. It's devasting! Elvis came out looking like a "mummy," meaning frozen in shock. The Fairytale book describes the horrifying scene. I cried on and off for hours

EIN Comment: 'Fairytale' was released as a novel, not as a work of non-fiction (see also Timeline:1985)


Diversion #14: The Wanda Hill Phone Transcripts

The story goes that Ms Hill taped her phone conversations. This is an alleged excerpt from acall to Graceland in 1969:

Priscilla Presley: Not this man! He said what he felt for me was something unreal, too hard to put into words, and went beyond mere love. That it was something more we had to do on this earth and he cared more for me than himself. When the time is right, he said, then I'd understand what he meant! Je gave me that old double talk, but he didn't make love to me. He wouldn't let me do anything! "L.", Elvis-if he hasn't been cheating, hasn't had sex of any type at all for at least 7 months! Not with me!

"L.": My God Beau! I think you should insist he see a counselor. You can't go on living like that! If he's just angry about [name omitted] then you must get it out in the open! It's not natural, is he, Beau, is he having a problem sexually? Maybe that's his hang up.

PP: No, that's not it. He's capable. He just refused to allow any contact that might lead to sex. He's loving in other ways, bringing me nice gifts, giving me flowers, and he's polite. He kisses and cuddles. I've thought he wanted sex, but if I try he's turned off! I just don't know what to do with him anymore.

"L.": Could it be the religious thing's he's into now?

PP: I think that's a big part of it. Elvis said the energy used for sex was tremendous, that channeled in the right direction, it could benefit him directly, that it was good to be chaste. It deepened the love nature, enriched the soul and made you stronger! Its sinful when used as a game, or just fun and that it should be one of mediation and prayer, treated as a gift from God! He went on and on about it, then said from now on I have to listen to him and practice what he did because from now on sex was going to be "right" or not at all! I think he's trying to force me to take part in his religion by withholding his affections this way.

"L.": He sounds a little warped out Beau. I really believe he needs to talk to someone not one of those religious nuts he sees either! That's crazy. You are married. It's not a sin!

PP: That's not all he thinks either. He sits for hours at the pool in the moonlight, stares at the water and talks to himself! He says he sees and hears voices talking back, that he can see people in the water! Then he lights candles and chants! He spends hours mediatating and won't talk to anyone! Or even move! I caught him teaching Lisa to do the same thing at the pool the other day. I told him to stop it. He got so angry he stormed away in a huff to the barn. I can't talk to him anymore about anything without him getting uptight or mad. I really think he doesn't love me anymore, that he wishes he were free.

"L..": Oh I hope not! You need to see someone, [here she goes on about them being perfect together] Elvis is such a nice guy. He loved you so much he couldn't just change like that! It must be the crazy things they're teaching him at that retreat! It must be that!

PP: I'd like to blow the place to bits! Since they've had their hands on him he has become a different man!

"L.": He's so sexy...[part cut out here]

PP: He used to be...but that was before the baby came....

"L.": And before he joined the religious center--

PP: It was.

"L.": I think that's it. He told G. something about his wanted to be a priest! Wanting to gain the knowledge and the power to help people. He said it was difficult. He had so many bad habits to overcome. Maybe sex is one of them? In his mind, I mean.

PP: It is. I'm sure of it! But I'm his wife, doesn't that count! My God, I have got to get him aways from those...people!

"L.": I hope you can soon. I'd hate to see Elvis ruined.


Diversion #15: The Jimmy "Orion" Ellis Myth

Jimmy Ellis initially found fame because of his vocal simalarity to Elvis. The Shelby Singleton initiated albums, "Jerry Lee Lewis & Friends" and "Duets" had many fans fooled. Those with a trained ear knew immediately it wasn't Elvis but for thousands of others they weren't so sure. And when Jimmy Ellis morphed into the masked singer Orion, cleverly marketed with an Elvis hook and cross-promotion with Gail Brewer-Giorgio's book of the same name, the myth flourished, at least in the religiously inclined hotbed of the southern states of North America.

The Jerry Lee Lewis albums featuring Jimmy Ellis sold respectively, not in the millions but in the tens of thousands. Similarly, for a few years Orion's prolific recording career saw him achieve success, particularly on the Cashbox & Billboard Country Album charts. His stage persona fooled many, despite the fact that Jimmy Ellis was 3 to 4 inches taller than Elvis and even with the mask the facial resemblance between the two was minimal. Without the mask any resemblance virtually disappeared.

To counter this, particularly after Ellis/Orion, tired of his masked persona, unmasked in 1982, the believers constructed fanciful tales of plastic surgery and the "second" Orion. Their belief could remain intact by redefining elements of the myth.

Also, in later years all the believers had to do was ask Jerry Lee Lewis about the mystery vocalist on the albums. He quite happily told stories about Jimmy Ellis, later the masked man called Orion.

Sadly, Jimmy Ellis would meet a callous and premature death:

Click for:

The rollercoaster, tragic story of Jimmy Ellis

Jimmy "Orion" Ellis gunned down & killed in robbery

 

Sources

Professional & Academic:

JNA & Associates Pty Ltd (Investigative Consultants)

American Board of Recorded Evidence - Voice Comparison Standards

The Effects of Decreased Frequency Bandwidth on Speaker Identification by Aural and Spectrographic Examination of Speech Samples, Greenwald, M., Michigan State University

Voice Identification: The Aural/Spectrographic Method, Michael C. McDermott, Tom Owen, Frank M. McDermott, Ltd./Owl Investigations, Inc.


Books:

Careless Love The Unmaking of Elvis Presley, Peter Guralnick

Elvis Inc. The Fall and Rise of the Presley Empire, Sean O'Neal

Elvis' DNA Proves He's Alive, Bill Beeny

Elvis The Secret Files, John Parker

The Death of Elvis: What Really Happened, Charles C. Thompson II & James P. Cole

The Tupelo-Memphis Murders: A Psychological Study of Self Destruction and Murder!, Anonymous

True Disbelievers: The Elvis Contagion, Serge Denisoff & George Plasketes


Media articles:

"Evangelist Says He Resigned as Pastor over 'Differences,'" St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 9 April 1961

"Evangelist Sees U.S. Officials on Red Inquiry," St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 12 April 1961

"Evangelist Beeny Tells of Penchant for Sticking Head in Lion’s Mouth," St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 23 April 1961

"Beeny March Supports War," Springfield Press Leader (MO), 1 November. 1965

"Beeny Displays Weapons for 'Home Defense,'" St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 27 June 1966

"The Rev. Bill Beeny Endorses Wallace," St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 24 July 1968

"Voice of Reason, Inc.," Federal Register, vol. 35, no. 85 (1 May 1970), 6988-9"Bill Beeny is Refused Broadcasting License," St. Louis Post-Dispatch, 5-6March. 1971

"What Ever Happened to Bill Beeny," St. Louis Globe-Democrat, 14-15 August. 1976


Internet resources:

In The Circuit

Nodeworks Encyclopedia

Oregon Department of Justice: Attorney General announces lawsuit settlement with Florida-Based Telemarketer Fundraisers, Inc

Wikipedia

Underground Websites, Messageboards & Chat Groups (most are no longer active):

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GATHERINGITES2004/

http://members.boardhost.com/ElvisManORMyth/msg/4.html

http://village.fortunecity.com/radclyffe/778/alive.html

http://www.crazyme.org.uk/html/larry.html

Dear King website

Mary Smiley's 'Molly & Joe' board

Mary Smiley's Private Messageboard

Mickey Moran site


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Added 2 May 2006:

Phil Aitcheson (Presley Commission, USA) #1: Just for your info:  Chain of custody on tissue samples was not broken, and submission of tissue samples was correctly done.  If you listen or base your investigation on Mary Smiley's assumptions and ramblings then you will not find the truth of the matter.  I hope you have something more substantial.
 

EIN Response: Our investigation had nothing to do with any claims by Mary Smiley.

If you look closely at what the chain of custody principle requires we do not see how any claim can be made that there was not room for the chain to be broken.  Accepting someone's word that the principle has not been broken is materially different to proof.
 
We are talking here of nearly three decades where the tissue samples were not in the legally constituted custody environment.
 
EIN is only too happy to publish any evidence supporting your claim.  Do you have any?
 
Phil Aitcheson (Presley Commission, USA) #2: First of all, the tissue samples were on file in an archives environment controlled by the hospital. Who's to say it was not a correct environment. Certainly not JNA.  Secondly, the submission rules for DNA testing was performed by a doctor who had the proper credentials, and who was aware of the actual submission process.  The doctor has asked to keep his name out of it as a result of his close relationship to the family and the situation.  I can't help that.  It was his choice.   I wouldn't bee too quick to downplay the importance of this DNA test.  It was very legitimately conducted.
 
EIN Response: It's important here we don't confuse two issues: the chain of custody principle and the DNA analysis findings.  They are separate but obviously related issues.
 
You will note our article acknowledges that even if chain of custody cannot be proven this does not rule out the analysis being valid.
 
Unless the DNA samples used were "officially" recorded as having been passed to the third party doctor under controlled circumstances, any claim that they are "Elvis" samples is unlikely to be accepted by a court.  There is just too much room for tampering and/or substitution.  Was Bill Beeny or his son there when they were obtained by the third party doctor? The answer is NO.  They are simply accepting his claim as to their authenticity. 
 
In EIN's opinion, the onus of "proof" now lies with Bill Beeny.  But in the context of how the samples were obtained, the reality is he can't prove all samples are from Elvis.  He can "believe" it but he can't "prove" it. 
 
Similarly, for arguments sake, I can believe my next door neighbor was abducted by aliens because others claim to have seen a flying saucer near his home and he has been found to have a mysterious implant in his skull, but I can't prove it.

Phil Aitcheson (Presley Commission, USA) #3: The Doctor would have no reason to lie or indicate that the samples were not extracted from the Hospital archives incorrectly.  We guided him to the proper place by the labelling information and file numbers.  Extraction, submission, and know how are all accepted within the parameters of proper retrieval methods and providing the lab with the information and correct submission formats.  The doctor has stated this and he again, has no reason to lie.  In fact, he thought Elvis might be dead too originally, but when he saw the results, he was shocked.  He had no reason to doubt the results, and the back up test conducted later by the Fox people also verified the results as the same.  Frankly, any question of this further is eroneous.  You can quote me on this.

EIN Response: The unnamed doctor's claim as offered by Mr Beeny and/or the Presley Commission constitutes a form of "hearsay" evidence. While sometimes accepted in court, there is a general rule at law (Federal Rule #802) against "hearsay" evidence in that it is not as reliable as direct evidence. In the context of the Elvis DNA samples, a 'direct' statement is required from the 'unnamed' doctor before the claim could be more favorably considered.


Marty Lacker (Memphis Mafia member and co-best man at Elvis and Priscilla's wedding) #1: I have just read your report on the Beeny Elvis DNA crap.

To begin with, as you know, I have called Beeny either a nutcase or he's a con man.  Elvis died on August 16,1977 and for anyone to suggest otherwise or that Elvis would fake his death, they're either that--a nutcase or con man. All those people you mention, Brewer-Girogio,Chances et al: are just that.

Secondly if any doctor showed the sealed autopsy or gave tissues of Elvis to anyone not authorized, their license to practice medicine would be taken away from them.  Once again, Beeny is full of crap.

As for the spelling of Aaron, anyone who has read my books Portrait Of A Friend or Elvis & The Memphis Mafia knows I am responsible for it being changed in 1966 from Aron to Aaron.

To make a long story short, after the one and only disagreement Elvis and I ever had, Elvis apologized to me.  In a conversation we had that moment with his father, Richard Davis and Mike Keaton in attendance in the Graceland basement den, I asked Elvis how come it was spelled Aron when in the bible, as he had often stated, it was Aaron.  He then said while looking at his father, "back then in East Tupelo some family members had trouble spelling." Then he looked at his father and said, " from now on anytime my middle name is used I want it to be Aaron with two A's the way it is supposed to be." That's how and when it became Aaron with two A's. 11 years before he died. No big mystery.

All of those people named in your story claimed to be Elvis fans yet they have done a great dis-service to him with their bullshit story. Although in our memory's and hearts Elvis is alive, he physically died on
August 16,1977 and everyone needs to stop all this Elvis Is Alive nonsense.

EIN Response: Marty, thanks for sharing the story of the spelling of "Aaron/Aron". Many fans will not be faniliar with this.


John Walker (Australia): Your fascinating article adds appreciably to the discourse on Elvis' life in death. I await with great interest the barrage of counter claims you will receive.


Chad Heywood (New Zealand): Sensational article! I always wondered where the flaw was with the DNA samples. At first it seemed very convincing. You've opened my eyes to the issues beyond just the analysis results.


Anita: Your story misses a lot of information about how Elvis faked his death and left clues for his fans. He never wanted to leave us but because of the Mafia he had to. It broke his heart going away like that.


Brian Spencer (England): I found your article to be interesting. Is it not also possible the Beeny DNA samples were switched years ago in the hospital?

EIN Response: Yes!


Ida Ritter (USA): I read all of the article that you prepared. First of all:  Congratulations on a well prepared and designed hard work.

I read all or many of those books that are mentioned in your document, Is Elvis Alive, Giorgio, Presley Commission, the Video for Giorgio which I owned long time ago and others.  I read also of so many sightings of Elvis in different places according to many others.
 
I wonder why the position of EPE not commenting on the issue of the Insurance Policy never collected, but knowing the way they are is very easy to understand,in the other hand I am going to go further on a very PERSONAL OPINION by saying that anything in this respect the more time is kept secret or not open to the public totally, the more intriguing it will become making it an easy target for all fans anxious of every news will buy anything said about it, and of course the mystery will continue on and on.
 
I do not personally have any respect for Dr. Nicks behavior as a doctor, contributing to Elvis's self destruction, but then in the other hand I will repeat myself again saying:  Elvis did not exercise control of his life, is so hard to accept that an intelligent man like him with everything in his hands gave up to his self destruction taking so many drugs as also portrayed in the Elvis and the Memphis Mafia book but he was not alone there where other doctors too along the line.
 
If he is alive where is he, but it is much controversy surrounding his death, so many obscure details that only the persons there if they were ever really truthful could clarify instead of giving the run around not to say what really happened, example:  the cleaning of the bathroom, but it is clear and accepted that nothing was found in there as drugs or even analgesics of any kind, why did they do that, what where they covering, that is unlawful to do that but in the other hand, maybe they were trying to protect his image knowing the consequences.  Only God knows. I have the Geraldo Rivera Elvis Cover Up, 20 20 a very interesting investigation, but of course with its tabloid excepts to make it more of dramatic show.  There were contradictions as what was the cause of death, and at the end the case was close at a very early stage. Another one of my very own personal opinions:  Nobody no matter how close they were to Elvis, (the Memphis mafia included of course) are going to say the total and real story,, this is only human nature, to protect him and probably themselves too to an extend, there are always things in our personal life and behavior that are part or our inner self and not for exposure or discussion.
 
People is known to do so many things for money, and behind some issues is the fact that a cover up was there to imitate the King and make it sound like him, I myself heard the cassette that came with the Giorgio book, and when you listen to it:  it sounds like Elvis, but is it him?
 
The forensic Handwritten  analysis, that of Elvis after his death in 1977, which is totally not being accepted and open to many debates, and questions.
 
So many years passed already since Elvis death, and as far as I am concerned he died on August 1977, even though for many is still hard to accept, the shadows surrounding his death are always going to be there as long as there are still fans out there that refuse to believe he died, maybe some day everything will come to the surface and the myth will totally uncover,there is a say in my country that goes:  "Under the earth and the sky nothing keeps hiden",  as for my personal opinion as a fan:  He is still alive in his music and the legacy he left for the world of entertainment, and as a generous man throughout his all life, and the fact that he changed the face of American Music for ever daring to do what nobody did before, dressing different, singing different and moving different until the last performance of his life.
 
Great documentary article EIN. I hope that those last two facts will uncover sometime with EPE giving some attention and answering your calls, but I doubt it.  but then, who knows.
 
Thanks for again letting me comment in such important issue.

Paul Turner: Well done!


BEARS9@aol.com: I realy like the article on is Elvis alive...great work.


Margaret B.: I know in my heart that Elvis didn't die in 1977. Your article is wrong.


Roger Brooks: While I do not share your conclusions I commend you on a generally well researched and interesting article. There is a lot more about Elvis' alleged death which will come out in the next year or so. It will make many disbelievers stand up and take notice.


Sue (USA): You people just don't get it. Elvis loved his family and friends didn't want to put them in danger. That is why he had to disappear from sight. He is a great man and we should be proud of what he did for others, it cost him a lot personally.


Siobhan Green: Cool article! Keep up the good work.


Barb P.: Your article is CRAP!!


Robert McKenzie: Brilliant! You've king hit those Elvis is alive nuts.


Barry Fuller: Why can't we just forget all this ridiculous Elvis is alive nonsense and concentrate on what its really about, his music!


Ann (France): Magnifique!


Mike G.: You will be proven wrong!!!!


ElvisLivesinTorquay: Wow! What an article. I've read it a few times and I'm still finding things I never knew.


Sarah Friend: Your article has made me think. I'm not convinced you are right and I'm going to double check some of your facts. It was enjoyable reading it.


Patrick Lacy (USA) #1: My name is Patrick Lacy, and I am a writer/researcher from the Washington, DC, area.  I read with great interest this morning your article on Bill Beeny and his DNA findings.  Over the past several years, I have also been researching Beeny's claims, as well as the questions you address in your article, and I came to the same conclusion:  Beeny's DNA tests are meaningless without the chain of possession.  I have an idea of who provided the samples, so I am pursuing that angle, as well.  (It is sad that an attorney in Missouri is working with a doctor in Memphis to obtain private medical records...says something about ethics, doesn't it?)  To gain further perspective on Beeny's role in all of this, I also investigated the Lisa Johansen story, since she was the person Beeny used to get the DNA tests done at LabCorp. 

Anyway, I am finishing a book now that will be available in late July or early August.  I cover all the Beeny stuff (including his other claims, which echo much of the PC's material), the Elvis-is-alive questions, the Johansen scam, as well as a long list of topics that have been fallen victim to misinformation over the years (the cause of death, the 1994 autopsy re-examination, the August 29, 1977, break-in at Forest Hill, the ambulance video, Billy Miller, Dick Grob's claims re: Ginger Alden, etc.).  I can send you a list of the chapters if you'd like a better idea of the approach I have taken, and of the content of the book. You did a good job on the Beeny article, it was a good read. 

EIN Response: Patrick's message is illuminating. EIN revisited Lisa Johansen's now discredited book, 'I, Lisa Marie The True Story of Elvis Presley's Real Daughter' (Bill Beeny has also written a book about Ms Johansen's claims). It turns out Andrew Beeny (Bill's son) acted as her attorney! That Ms Johansen was the Beeny's contact in LabCorp virtually torpedos any remaining credibility his claims have! EIN will shortly publish an article on the Johansen matter.

EIN looks forward to hearing more about Patrick's lead on who provided the samples.

EIN will keep fans up to date regarding Patrick's book. We are sure there are a lot of people who will be interested in buying it.

EIN News story about Elvis Decoded: As noted in our recent article on the Beeny DNA evidence, Patrick Lacy's book, 'Elvis Decoded', is due for publication in July. The author has written a book that is long overdue:  a detailed, in-depth examination of the facts and figures that permeate the many Elvis books, websites, articles, and public boards.  He sorts through all the information and puts things in proper perspective.

The book will present in Q&A format an examination and comparison of numerous stories in the Elvis world including the possibility Elvis did not die in 1977, illegitimate children claims, the break-in at Forest Hill Cemetery, Elvis' last will and a lot more. Click to visit the Elvis Decoded website.


Added 3 May 2006:

Phil Aitcheson (Presley Commission, USA) #4: Remember hearsay evidence is just that, and typically comes with no or little documentation.  The DNA test has plenty of documentation.  Just because the Doctor doesn't want his name put out there, means little.  The fact remains the results are what they are.  They were prudently and carefully submitted, and came back the way they did.  We accept the findings, because there are nothing to really dispute them.  Any Doctor or medical pro will tell you, when you have suitable DNA results, that is that. That's not to say, of course that more evidence can't be derived, but for DNA to show what it has provided, it is a good thing.  Good luck with the article.


Cory Cooper (elvisexpert@aol.com): The exhaustive work and research of Patrick Lacy I think many in the Elvis world and fans will enjoy. This endeavor not only will dispel these types of rumors and stories over the years but will also tell the facts and explain why these stories and rumors are wrong with rational explanations. Finally there will be a definitive work that will explore this topic and hopefully put an end to all the misinformation and rumor.


AJ #1: People have been following this story for many years. Now, you seem to think you have the answer? Well, I hope you do. First of all Marty Lacker did NOT come to the funeral or the visitation at Graceland. He has no idea whether Elvis died or not!

Compare all the MM stories where not one of them repeated the same story and what have you got?? Hearsay. Oh, yes.....just wait a little bit, they'll change it for you.  While the doctor that provided Mr Beeny with all his evidence will not come forward....I agree. It leaves  much to be desired. 

However.....on the other hand, you have not provided any greater information that Elvis Presley died that day. . It could all be hearsay {refer to your law}  Unless and until YOU can provide DNA of that body said to be buried at Graceland....you have no more idea than I do whether it was Elvis Presley. Not one of these authors can positively claim to know either way.

So, what's your point for all this?? To make money off Elvis Presley, same as all the others.

The only thing I want to say now is: IF one of your family supposedly died and there were all these unanswered questions......would you not want to find the truth? Francisco lied of the cause of death, even before an autopsy was complete. He'd already screwed up MLK autopsy , why wasn't this man fired? You have no proof Elvis died that day . It was in the papers, a death certificate?

I can show you an Australian soldier sent home to be buried. His mother found out it wasn't him, Just before they buried him!!  An autopsy ?? Where is the autopsy ? For that matter, where is the death certificate? We've only seen the M.E. report , yeah....that Francisco M.E.

So just admit it, Nigel..........You're in this to sell books !! You don't give a damn one way or another if that body was Elvis Presley. But, SOME of us do!! Go do some more investigating !! Let's hope they didn't charge you, because you got screwed !!

EIN Response: We appreciate AJ's passion and many of his points. They demonstrate how easily people can be led into believing something! 

Hate to disappoint AJ though.  EIN isn't writing a book about the issue nor do we have any for sale (apart from a few remaining copies of 'The Tupelo-Memphis Murders').  Our main area of sales is the BMG FTD releases. If AJ has any evidence suggesting our article is designed so EIN can sell books we will very happily give him prominent front page placement on the EIN site.

As for the autopsy report it was sealed for 50 years and is due for release in August 2027. 

Our article was simply to provide a background/timeline for the issue and expose a critical weakness in the DNA claims.  Long time readers of EIN will know we have published many other articles challenging widely accepted beliefs in the Elvis world (eg. Elvis & racism; Elvis vs. The Beatles/Elvis' record sales exceed 1 billion).
AJ #2: Well, I'm kind of an investigator too, Nigel. Didn't take a second to find Patrick.......


Ask any question! Allexperts.com is the oldest & largest free Q&A service on the Internet.
 
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Subject   Your name
Question   What is your last name, Patrick?
Or at least, what part of the US do you live?

Do you think Elvis is alive or dead? Your proof?

thanks, AJ
Answer   AJ-

Thanks for writing. I live near Washington DC, and I am guessing you have read EIN this week.

Elvis Presley died on August 16, 1977, and there is ample proof to support that contention (too much to cover here). The burden of proof to illustrate otherwise in on the people who claim Elvis is alive, and so far, they have been unable to provide even one shred of evidence.

Hope this answers your questions.

Thanks.
Patrick

EIN Response: EIN was unaware of Patrick Lacy's book until we published our article. We had been informed prior to publishing the article that a new book was to be published but we were not aware of its author or title.

EIN is in no way associated with publication or sale of Patrick's book, but it does sound very interesting and we intend to run news stories about it, as we have done with other "is Elvis alive" books, and in fact as we have done for many other types of Elvis books, CDs and DVDs. A cursory check of our news archives easily demonstrates this.

AJ has mistakenly assumed we prepared our article with the intent of selling Patrick's book to make money. Again, this could not be further from the truth!


Brad Miller (USA): Freakin' awesome article.


Malcolm Bright: As a police investigator for more than 20 years I can tell you, you have hit the nail squarely on its head. Well done!


Peta Gurnson: Why don't you let Elvis rest in peace!


Jenny M.: It's a tribute to his appeal that even in death Elvis has a life of bizarre nooks and crannies and bewildering proportions.  A soap opera fit for a King.


 

BuddyHollyLover: Elvis alive?  That'll Be The Day


Allison Fabozzi: I read the article, very interesting. So lets say Elvis may still be alive today. If so who is the real Elvis today, he sure wouldnt use his name but you know as well as I do there is a select few out there that are trying to make people believe they are the real Elvis.


Sue (EPE123) #1: Very interesting reading.......but there is one mistake, the "EPE" person that you feel is Mary Smiley....is not...because that was me on the message forums. I have ALL the material printed out. 

EIN Note: see Timeline '2003' above


Conny (Germany) #1:

To date 1974: Was Elvis knew about Jimmy at this time and did he knew they were related ?

1977: to the early 1990's: Mary Smiley......Well I had my own experiences with her and know she made much trouble concerning Elvis is still alive and I wonder she's wrote a book about Elvis is still alive what's up with Mary Smiley I heard she's in the 70's that's right ? And what she has to do with the Elvis Alive thing?

1981: Why was Charlie Hodge sued and what's up with Steven Chanzes to this time I thought it was Elvis who used this name and Jimmy Ellis too can you tell me more about this ? I wonder that Charlie was sued and maybe you can tell me what he has done and what he had to do with Steven Chanzes ?

1984: I have the two Parts of Bill Bixby's Elvis Conspiracy and I was  amazed to see his reports. Why Bill Bixby was the one who made the report and if I'm honest I wonder that he died I know he was sick (allegedely) but strange is that people who were near to the truth died so is Kelly Burgess either.......What's up with it ?

I mean I know how much money EPE's earning with Elvis fans...........And it's not fair. You know I had much work to figure out anything during the years (28 years) and it needed much stamps,money, sweating, threats and much paper because I had no PC when I started to get a "little agent".....LOL I never  was payed for my work and I can say I earned it and althought I wouldn't make money with Elvis and I won't betray him (I know for sure he's still alive ) but do you think that's fair? So maybe you can answer my questions!?

I got to know Charlie here in Germany 1987 and asked him if Elvis is still alive and he said: NO COMMENT. Nobody would do this if one know's a friend died right ? Ok I will wait for your answer and you can write me whenever you want.

EIN Response: Jimmy Ellis and Elvis were not related. Click to read EIN's article on Jimmy "Orion" Ellis for more information.

Charlie Hodge actually sued Chanzes because he was being misrepresented in Chanzes claims/book.  Charlie was mentioned in Chanzes' book as having received $1m for his services! Charlie's legal claim was settled 'out of court' when he accepted $2,500.00 from Chanzes (paid in $250 instalments).  Chanzes was also to destroy all copies of his book (although of course it later resurfaced with a new author's name!). 

In August 1986, Nigel Patterson's EIN interviewed Charlie Hodge, and Charlie made it very clear Elvis was dead.

Mary Smiley was a major identity in the Elvis underground for many years. She was very knowledgable of her subject and claimed to have "evidence" proving Elvis was alive. Her newsletter, The Elvis Beat, and online messageboards continued until 2004-05.

The two Bill Bixby specials were deliberately structured to offer evidence supporting a particular point of view.  The Elvis Files, based on the Brewer-Giorgio claims, and designed to boost flagging sales of her book of the same name, supported the idea that Elvis was alive; while The Elvis Conspiracy took the opposite position to effectively close the case. 

Brewer-Giorgio was involved in both specials and was far from happy with the position adopted in The Elvis Conspiracy (she had expected it to further support her views and again boost book sales).  Brewer-Giorgio subsequently used the underground newsletter, Elvis Lives, to fiercely attack the show's producers believing she had been betrayed. The book, 'True Disbelievers: The Elvis Contagion', contains a detailed account of this issue.


Jenny: Elvis will live on in our hearts forever.


Cynthia (Norway): Thank you for your article. It was very enjoyable to read.


 
Added 4 May 2006

Phil Aitcheson (Presley Commission, USA) #5: As far as the handwriting goes, it was examined by a master graphologist who put it on a light table and determined that the handwriting did indeed match previous known samples of Elvis' handwriting.

As far as the commission is concerned it is considered valid.  Voice prints are not cheap, but the ones that were done with the L. H. Williams are considered valid also.

You  can't have a guy out there who writes like Elvis, sounds like Elvis, and has verifying scientific tests to confirm it, and then say its not him.  Frankly, just because some of the evidence may seem shallow, it isn't all shallow.  I don't think law enforcement and medical personnel would've told us wrongly.  And now, this DNA evidence of Bill's was backed up by another test done by a reporter from Fox News, and was verified as having the same results.  It doesn't seem likely that Elvis would be really dead if his DNA isn't saying otherwise.  Just a few comments...take care and good luck...you know our position on things.

Patrick Lacy (USA) #2: I just read your responses to Phil Aitcheson's information.  Interesting that his claim about how the samples were obtained differs from Bill Beeny's, as Beeny claims that the doctor already had the samples, and that he had obtained them from Harold Sexton. You have said this to Phil in your responses, but you should also make one point crystal clear: As soon as any sample...ANY sample...leaves the controlled environment, the chain of custody has been broken.  This is Law School 101.  When Dr. X walked out of BMH, the samples were thus contaminated, damaged, usleless, or whatever terms you'd like to use. 

For Phil to say the doctor "has no reason to lie" carries about as much weight as Johnny Cochran addressing Judge Ito, and saying "O.J. has no reason to lie."  Evidence is not corroborated by statements like this.

Patrick Lacy #3: I want to point out one key point that Phil makes about the unnamed doctor:

 
"In fact, he thought Elvis might be dead too originally, but when he saw the results, he was shocked. "
 
Here, Phil is saying that Dr. X believed Elvis to be dead up until the time the results came back, and it was then that he was shocked and apparently changed his mind.  This implies that when he agreed to steal the materials from BMH, he still believed Elvis was dead.  What doctor in his right mind would risk his entire career and reputation and livelihood just to provide tissue samples to some kook who's trying to prove Elvis faked his death?  I cannot think of a single reason to do this, except for money, and I would hope that a doctor couldn't be bought off so easily.

Amber Smith (Australia): Red hot article!


James Peachy (Scotland): These people are certifiable nuts! I say find the nearest funny farm.


Bianca: Those of us who know don't need to prove anything to those who don't understand. There were big reasons why Elvis faked his death. They all make sense, its that a lot of people don't know what he was involved in and how dangerous it was. Elvis is now much older and at this time of his life would gain nothing but heartache by revealing himself. It is so wonderful how he continues to bring so many so much joy and inner happiness.


Steve M (on FECC board): That was always the question put to Beeny to which he never answered with anything relevant to the question. How can he prove the samples he had were from Elvis ? He couldn't and consequently never did.

EIN wrote: This now leaves only one material issue in the "is Elvis alive" conspiracy argument...the alleged unclaimed insurance policy. The organisation best placed to clarify this issue is of course EPE.

Why EPE does not answer questions on, or clarify this issue, is anyone's guess.


Steve says:
Why should EPE do this ? It's not their problem, they dont have an issue with it.
As far as I recall (going back a good number of years now and my memory...) Elvis did cash in the insurance in 1977 before he died. The paperwork that related to this and discovered later assumed the policy was still in place.

I also believe the reason was to raise hard cash in order to pay Priscilla for the final divorce settlement payment and even then he had to sign over a third of the value of Graceland to her. Not many realise Cilla owned a good chunk of Graceland at the time Elvis died.


AJ #3:

EIN says: Charlie Hodge actually sued Chanzes because he was being misrepresented in Chanzes claims/book.  Charlie was mentioned in Chanzes' book as having received $1m for his services! Charlie's legal claim was settled 'out of court' when he accepted $2,500.00 from Chanzes (paid in $250 instalments).  Chanzes was also to destroy all copies of his book (although of course it later resurfaced with a new author's name!). 

AJ responds: People were not happy with Charlie Hodge talking to Chanzes. But, Charlie waited nearly 2 years before filing a lawsuit against Globe and Chanzes. What was he waiting for if he was so outraged? Perhaps his promised $1,000,000.00?? I don't believe Chanzes for one minute and believe he is and was a crook. But, Charlie seems to be to have been no better. He too wanted his "pound of flesh", just because he was one of Elvis' "friends".

EIN Response: AJ is right on one count. Charlie did wait nearly 2 years to sue Chanzes. As for Charlie's motivation, AJ's claim is conjecture. Possibly it's right, but definitely it is conjecture.

EIN says: Mary Smiley was a major identity in the Elvis underground for many years. She was very knowledgable of her subject and claimed to have "evidence" proving Elvis was alive. Her newsletter, The Elvis Beat, and online messageboards continued until 2004-05.

AJ says: Ms Smiley was only a major player in the ElvisAlive movement in her own mind and in the way some people allowed her to run over and harass them . If she had presented her so called"documentation" in a clear concise way.....many might have listened to her. Instead, she chose to attack any and all Elvis fans on message boards and in person. If anyone is crazy...it would be her and Goldman.

EIN Response: With a regular newsletter, The Elvis Beat, published in hard copy and later online over many years , and as the most prolific person hosting underground messageboards featuring documents and with a wide readership, EIN feels Mrs Smiley's place in the Elvis underground is somewhat more than in her own mind.

EIN says: The two Bill Bixby specials were deliberately structured to offer evidence supporting a particular point of view.  The Elvis Files, based on the Brewer-Giorgio claims, and designed to boost flagging sales of her book of the same name, supported the idea that Elvis was alive; while The Elvis Conspiracy took the opposite position to effectively close the case. 

AJ says: This case will never be closed. Ms Giorgio only brought to the public the many questions the fans were asking in private. Yet, she was attacked by Ms Smiley and others. Now why is that, do you think?

EIN Response: We'll leave it to AJ to fill in his theory.

EIN says: Brewer-Giorgio was involved in both specials and was far from happy with the position adopted in The Elvis Conspiracy (she had expected it to further support her views and again boost book sales).  Brewer-Giorgio subsequently used the underground newsletter, Elvis Lives, to fiercely attack the show's producers believing she had been betrayed. The book, 'True Disbelievers: The Elvis Contagion', contains a detailed account of this issue.

AJ says: A Please DO read this book, True Disbelievers!! Just go to the library and check it out , don't waste your money!! It's written by a Psychology Prof. and if anyone thinks he knows anything about Elvis and his fans....I feel sorry for them. While he "mentions" all the various myths brought up.....he proceeds to go on and on tearing apart organized religion. It is he that that needs a long stay  in a psych. ward. No one I know believes all the crap he's written.......and BTW; you'll see Ms Smiley contributed greatly to their "facts".
You will be more confused as you struggle through all his "facts" with no proof!! 

EIN Response: Yes, Mrs Smiley was a primary, but far from the only source, for Professors (there were two) Denisoff & Plasketes. Beyond that, we'll leave it to our readers to assess these comments by AJ.


AJ #4:

EIN Response to AJ: We appreciate AJ's passion and many of his points. They demonstrate how easily people can be led into believing something! 

AJ says: My passion is to search for and report truth!! NOT sell a thing or to attack others for their beliefs. How many of these"authors" can say that?

EIN Response: As we have said in a message to AJ, if he reflects on his comments in this message he is doing the exact thing he claims not to be doing...attacking what others believe.

EIN said: Hate to disappoint AJ though.  EIN isn't writing a book about the issue nor do we have any for sale (apart from a few remaining copies of 'The Tupelo-Memphis Murders').  Our main area of sales is the BMG FTD releases. If AJ has any evidence suggesting our article is designed so EIN can sell books we will very happily give him prominent front page placement on the EIN site.

AJ response: You have disappointed me, Nigel. You may not be selling this particular book....but, you've sold a book and other things. Including a stupid debate to your website!!

EIN Response: We never realised we weren't permitted to sell things. If our article is so stupid why is AJ bothering with it time and time again?

EIN said: As for the autopsy report it was sealed for 50 years and is due for release in August 2027. 

AJ responds: Exactly what I've said. Not one of the authors has shown us the autopsy report. Although in Charles Thompson's book; "The Death of Elvis" he states he was given a copy of the  autopsy report, among other "documents". Now, why doesn't your "investigation" look into his claims? It's all speculation!

EIN Response: It would be difficult for EIN, based in Australia, to investigate the issue raised by AJ. Why doesn't AJ investigate it?

EIN said: Our article was simply to provide a background/timeline for the issue and expose a critical weakness in the DNA claims.  Long time readers of EIN will know we have published many other articles challenging widely accepted beliefs in the Elvis world (eg. Elvis & racism; Elvis vs. The Beatles/Elvis' record sales exceed 1 billion).

AJ responds: I found long ago that there was nothing on a message board that would aid in any way to finding a truth. People can and do say whatever they want. Your article was NOT simple in any way. You went to great effort to discredit a man you don't even know. But, yet, you offer no proof  yourself to the contrary I find it self-serving of you and any and all your "investigators." Anyone can find what you've found.....they have only to look. My opinion: You've not presented a "fatal flaw" as promised, but only become involved with the really "sick underground." I'm ashamed of you!!

EIN Response: We're sorry AJ is ashamed of us, but I think we'll get over it!

As for the 'fatal flaw', a number of police and legal parties have confirmed our finding.

The one thing we'll say about getting at the truth, a matter important to EIN, and allegedly to AJ, is that attacking another party is not a productive strategy in this respect. It's much better to stick to facts rather than resorting to personal attacks and denigration.


Ian anderson (Elvisnumberones board): Wow, those pictures definately look just like Elvis! And i really enjoyed the very interesting reading! That pic with the leg injury,and the one of him behind Ali,look just like Elvis!

Elvisfan (elvisnumberones board): None of the photos look like EP. Sorry but I don't see EP. Besides do you or anyone else think EP would be dumb enough to be seen in public looking like himself or close to it? NO! This crap has been going on for too long. What are they going to say 20 years from now? Elvis faked his death and is still alive at 91? LOL


Fay Coons: why dont you dig up the grave and look and see who or what is in the coffin  and slove it once in for all then you would'nt have to keep guessing . you make me nuts with all this crap. if you check the grave and if hes in there do the D>N>A> thing.............................................


William (USA): I'm not sure if this will get me to the discussion on your board or not. My name is William from Fort Worth.

First of all, let me say that it seems like homecoming here, I know quite a few of the people who have posted on this subject.

Nigel, I understand your concern regarding the chain of posession of the tissue that was provided to Beeny.  It is a long and winding road for that tissue to get from 1977 to the year Beeny was allowed to have it tested.  While I agree that Beeny is somewhat of a lightning rod for controversy,  you need to remember that he was approached by this doctor.  Out of the blue he was contacted and told of the existence of the tissue samples.  These items truly exist.  They were tested professionaly.  The results are what they are.  The autopsy report that he was allowed to read contained some interesting information that would lead one to wonder if that autopsy was describing the body of Elvis, most suspicously, a long healed scar on the
chest of the body.   As recently as June of that year, Elvis was seen in concert with his jumpsuit open enough to reveal his chest, but no scar was visible.

Just let me ask this.  If we, the public, are expected to accept the autopsy report, the one that was so "private" that it became sealed for 50 years, then why can't people accept and appreciate that a reputable doctor would rather his name not be dragged into this?  Why is there one set of laws and privacy for Elvis, but another set of laws for anyone who may have conflicting information, but desire to remain anonymous?  Maybe this doctor will allow his/her name to be released in 50 years.

There is one fact that remains.  Dr Sexton, mentioned in Beeny's book as the one who obtained the samples, must have had some reason to do so.  And in my opinion, that is where your story begins.  What happened on 8/16/77 that would motivate this fine doctor to keep a sample from the autopsy?  What curiousity would lead him (or someone to do it for him) to obtain the liver biopsy samples from the earlier 70's?  And what was so important that he left those in the safekeeping of this other doctor?  Why do so many people expect actions like that to go unquestioned by Elvis fans?

I understand and appreciate Marty Lacker's defense of Elvis' legacy.  I  wish that Marty would also shed some inside information on the Operation Fountain Pen case.  Since he was so close to Elvis he surely knows what that was all about, and maybe he can share with us whether or not Elvis  actually was in danger during those months and weeks leading up to the scheduled testimony before the grand jury, on or around August 15 1977.  After all these years, all the books, I 'd like to hear from a member of the Memphis Mafia on this subject.  Maybe that would put rest to a lot of the "rumors".


Sue (EPE123) #2: I can imagine that your report has been very popular. I found it very interesting. What I can say right now is that I know that Elvis did not die August 16, 1977. My library has extensive proof of that. Mary's book will be very telling.  I also do not believe that any of the Presley's are buried at Graceland. The coming months could get very interesting. 

Added 5 May 2006

Sue: Well, with all due respect to Mr. Lacker....he really did not have anything to do with the spelling of "Aaron" or  "Aron". And he knows it. The people are not here to defend themselves.   And for him to name call those of us who know Elvis did not die in 1977, well, to me is just childish. If you have nothing nice to say, DON'T say anything!!!!
Rogier van Luyken (The Netherlands) #1: So Marty is now responsible for the name change?. Why is it then that the 'thank you' card send out by the family after the funeral reads: 'The Family Of Elvis Aron Presley....'. If he changed his name in 1966, surley his family could spell his name right after 11 years...

 

Rogier van Luyken (The Netherlands) #2: Sorry, forgot a few points: And isn't it amazing that Mafia members ALWAYS remember clearly conversations from 40 years ago but they can't remember the colour of his pyama's on August 16th (red, gold, blue, we have heard every colour of the rainbow by now), what book he was reading in the bathroom (naming books that were't available in 1977), where he was found and in what condition (bathroom/bedroom - dead/unconsious), who went along with him to the hospital in the ambulance (seems they all went, the ambulance must have had the size of a schoolbus), etc, etc... PLUS: not single ONE of them was aware of the whole FBI investigation happening right under their noses... Amazing... And WHY do all the (medical) documents of August 16th, 1977, have to remain SEALED for so many years after his dead?. Who unearth thought of that at that time, directed all that and why?. What's in those papers that has to remain a secret for so long? and that when they are finally released you will know one thing for sure: all people involved will be dead so no questions can be asked...

Phil Aitcheson (Presley Commission, USA) #6: I think it is important to look at the environment in which the tissue samples were extracted.  First of all, they were located in archives file, and grant it, they could've been tampered with, but there was no indication from the Doctor that they had been.  Secondly, if tissue samples are labeled correctly, which they were, and the submission of those samples were correctly done under the rules of DNA submission provided by various labs, which follows the parameters set forth by them, and by the industry, then there is no reason to think legitimately that results weren't accurate.  The Doctor and the attorney both assured us that the conduct of the extraction process plus testing was legitimately handled. 

You are going on the speculation that the chain of custody was broken...and according to the findings and the methodolgy by which the testing was done, there was no indication of compromise.  Secondly, there is no due process underway for this to ever go into court.  I wrote a nine page brief to the Attorney General's office a couple of years ago, depicting exhibits and portrayals of evidence in the case and they failed to act on it.  It will not go to court...unless somebody sues. So that, they say, is that.  The DNA testing was accepted as valid as a result of a briefing provided to my office regarding the methodology by which the tests were conducted.  Any speculation of mishandling is a pipe dream.


AJ #5: There are 3 or 4 of us looking too. I think it's just the way some judge everyone as Nuts or freaks that ask these questions.It makes me angry !!

There are lots of questions unanswered, still yet from 1977. We're just looking for the answers. I see no reason that all of this happened in the first place. IF it was a cover-up, I'm willing to admit it might be because of drugs or other reasons. It was just a botched job, dead or alive. EPE had a good reason to stop it. They didn't and still don't.

In all fairness; Lisa doesn't owe anyone a thing......but, if it was my dad, my life ....I think I'd just get it all over with and give a doctor some DNA. Just to get out of the circus.
I DO empathize with the fans that totally believe he's alive though. I don't want to hurt them; only protect them from the crooks and scam artists. On the other hand I've ran into Mary Smiley and believe me.....she doesn't give a damn who she hurts . She appears to enjoy it.
Because of my ethics .....you and I will never be friends, because I don't believe in letting her get away with all her crap. She's the one that's let all this drive her nuts !!

I'm sure we'll live to disagree again.....


AJ #6: In order to have a debate or discussion.....one must be able to respond in a timely fashion to keep a discussion going. You have not done that here. I've only expressed my opinion and lack of any proof to anything said. I've not meant this as a personal attack {as Ms Smiley has done} but,  to point out your own and her lack of facts. For someone to claim knowledge to any inside information is totally ludicrous. Not one of the MM nor EP's family, nor any of the authors of these "tell all" books have ever ventured into the subject of Operation Fountain Pen. It's all out here. Tell it, Nigel. BTW: I am looking into the claim made by Thompson and Cole about receiving the autopsy report. It just takes time ..unless one's satisfied with repeating what was said in another book. I'm not.

EIN Comment: As its title suggests, this section is simply Reader Feedback, not a discussion board. Those wanting to debate the issue can do so on the FECC or alt.elvis.king boards. There is currently a vigorous discussion of our article on FECC (several posts are published below)


AJ #7: So, how does it feel, Nigel? I never meant to attack you or your article. I was only offended that you attacked and inferred that Mr Beney was scamming and YOU could prove a "fatal flaw" in what he wrote. That's kind of like fake advertising, isn't it? BTW: if you check, Beeny never made a dime off that little book of his .....he paid for it all himself and never got a return.......unlike some of these other weirdo's .....

I won't bother you.....I'm still looking for ways to prove Elvis is either dead or alive. I don't have the time to mess  with Mary Smiley craziness !! You should try it sometime.....it's not up to you or me to tell people what to believe. Only to keep them from being tricked into believing someone has or is Elvis and try to solicit money in his name .....sick SOB's in my thinking.

Take care , but don't ever try to be condescending to me . I take offense to that and will discredit you every time.......I NEVER recommend any ones site or message board....not even my own. Mine is to review all things.....in private and contact everyone with a story. To prove or disprove any and all things. In case you've never been involved with this ElvisAlive stuff, it can  get quite dirty....believe me.
Very few have the stomach for it .....I quit at least every other day........


AJ #8: I have not meant what I said as a personal attack on you .....like the personal attacks I refer to that Mary Smiley has done to people. IF you are truly "in the know" then you know the attacks Smiley has carried out to all involved in an Elvis discussion. She, along with her minions, such as Paul Monroe have destroyed small message boards . They've also said nasty, disgusting things about Elvis Presley. As her Representative; you too will soon will have the same reputation as Mary and Paul......It's your funeral.....I'm done.

EIN Response: This one caught us off-guard. If anyone else thinks EIN represents Mary Smiley let us know. For the record, EIN is in no way associated with, nor do we agree with, Mrs Smiley's claims. However, her claims are a major part of the Elvis underground, hence why we have reported on them.


AJ #9: Since I have no way of posting this , please do it for everyone. The DEA response too.

On page 231 in True Disbelievers you'll see a statement from Joe Esposito:
 "Elvis was not an undercover agent, and NO BAND MEMBERS .AS CLAIMED ,WERE UNDERCOVER AGENTS."
Sorry, Joe .....the Government says different....... Looks like Joe didn't know everything about his boss.

EIN Note: We attempted to copy the DEA letters dated late 1982 which confirm there was an undercover agent in Elvis' band but unfortunately our picture viewer failed.


Chad Heywood (New Zealand): Who is this AJ? He's an absolute idiot with an agenda and major ego problems! I won't be holding my breath for him to solve anything.


Barbara (England): Are you sure AJ isn't related to Mary Smiley? At the least they must be from the same planet.


Genie (alt.elvis.king board): Fatal Flaw?" Forensic Science has come far and beyond fatal errors or flaws as well as one man or woman's "Evidence" is not automatically true or false.


Scatter (FECC board): Hmmmmmmmm.........I appreciate the article, but to me the fatal flaw was never a mystery. Beeny is full of excrement,and a nutjob of the first order who would drop the whole fantasy if he could just manage to get laid.


Steve_M (FECC board): That was always the question put to Beeny to which he never answered with anything relevant to the question. How can he prove the samples he had were from Elvis ? He couldn't and consequently never did.


EIN wrote: This now leaves only one material issue in the "is Elvis alive" conspiracy argument...the alleged unclaimed insurance policy. The organisation best placed to clarify this issue is of course EPE.

Why EPE does not answer questions on, or clarify this issue, is anyone's guess

Why should EPE do this ? It's not their problem, they dont have an issue with it.
As far as I recall (going back a good number of years now and my memory...) Elvis did cash in the insurance in 1977 before he died. The paperwork that related to this and discovered later assumed the policy was still in place. I also believe the reason was to raise hard cash in order to pay Priscilla for the final divorce settlement payment and even then he had to sign over a third of the value of Graceland to her. Not many realise Cilla owned a good chunk of Graceland at the time Elvis died.


JeroenNL (FECC board) #1: With great interest I've read your article.

I do agree that a there might be a flaw in Beenys DNA evidence.

However: people can take DNA from dead bodies and animals long after they have died and their body's also haven't been kept in the most ideal conditions as well... So there is still a bit of doubt on this subject in my mind. It is an interresting story, problem is that Beeny seems a bit out of this world.

Although a great article it doesn't answer all questions around August 16th, 1977.

The unclaimed insurance money is just one thing that remains strange. I also feel that the whole FBI File has a lot more to do with August 16th then we now know. And although Gail Brewer Georgio made some weird claims and presented a heap of facts that weren't facts she was the first one to point out the excistence of the FBI Files.

What really bugs me is that although Elvis was a crown-witness in the 'Operation Fountain Pen' case he did not get his justice done in court even though he had already died. The American goverment approved dropping all charges raised against the suspects concerning the Elvis case. So: Elvis lost his plane and about a million dollars but in the end he did not get any of that money back that would have been more then welcome to keep Graceland running at that time (he did get his plane back, while he was still alive).... Something doesn't add up there....

The whole August 16th case will forever remain a point of discussion. it is good to seperate facts from fiction. I guess we will have to wait till all official papers are finally made public. (Another clever thing to do at that time: when the papers will be made public you will know one thing for sure: everybody involved will be dead... Isn't that the same tactic used in the JFK case?... )


Adam Muskiewick (USA): Elvis Presley died in 1977, right? That's the official story. But some people say they've seen Presley alive years after he supposedly was put to rest on the grounds of his Graceland estate in Memphis, Tenn. He must have gotten tired of being the king of rock 'n' roll and faked his death, some surmise. Perhaps he took up residence in a smallish Midwestern town with a funny name.

Director Adam Muskiewicz and producer Dan Bliss were in Kalamazoo recently to do interviews for their documentary "The Truth About Elvis.''

"We're very excited about our interviews here. We've always known that Memphis, Vegas and Kalamazoo were our keystone cities'' for the mythology surrounding the legendary musician, Muskiewicz said Wednesday.

In the spring of 1988, the supermarket tabloid Weekly World News printed a story that Elvis had been spotted in a Kalamazoo Burger King restaurant. Gazette reporter Tom Haroldson wrote about the sighting report that May. He found the woman quoted in the tabloid story, Louise Welling, of Vicksburg, who said she had seen Elvis at a Vicksburg grocery; she said it was her daughter who had seen Elvis at the Burger King.

The story, former Gazette Editor James R. Mosby Jr. said Wednesday, then ``took on a life of its own, and it took off not only around the country but around the world.'' The Gazette story moved on the Associated Press wire and made its way into newspapers such as the New York Times. ``Then suddenly one day Haroldson's getting phone calls from the BBC (British Broadcasting Corp.) wanting to interview him,'' Mosby said.

On Wednesday morning, Muskiewicz interviewed Mosby and Kalamazoo Mayor Hannah McKinney on camera. He interviewed Welling later on Wednesday and Haroldson on Thursday. Before meeting the filmmakers, Mosby suspected the film might be a spoof. ``I thought they were going to do a put-on or put-down of the whole thing, or of Kalamazoo, but it didn't appear that way at all. They appeared to be very much into the Elvis thing, and very much into why there's this myth that keeps popping up and bouncing around almost 30 years after he died.''

Muskiewicz, an actor from Cleveland who has been in independent films, teamed in 2004 with Bliss, a producer of poker DVDs in Los Angeles, to look into the Elvis mystery. Muskiewicz said he thought, after hearing stories of Elvis still walking the earth, that it would be a great documentary subject, but only if filmmakers approached it seriously.

"There is nothing poking fun or making fun of anybody in this movie at all,'' Muskiewicz said.

Welling's story had Muskiewicz wondering about Elvis, who would be 71 years old today, after he spoke with her Wednesday. After 18 years, he said, "she's absolutely sure'' she saw Elvis at the checkout lane of the Vicksburg Harding's store, now a Felpausch store. Muskiewicz said he asked her how she knew it was Elvis. "Obviously it was 10 or 11 years after Elvis had died, so presumably his appearance would've changed a little bit,'' he said. "She made it clear, like so many people have said, when you're next to Elvis you know, simply because the man had an aura about him.''

Muskiewicz said he hopes to have "The Truth About Elvis'' ready for a premiere on Aug. 16, 2007 -- the 30th anniversary of Elvis' official date of death. In the meantime, he will keep looking for evidence and stories and would like those who believe they have seen Elvis to contact him at www.truthabout-elvis.com.


Added 6 May 2006

Phil Aitcheson (Presley Commission, USA) #7:

Official Statement by the Presley Commission Liaison Office

To EIN and all Elvis Fans:

A recent discussion of matters concerning the DNA testing conducted by Andrew Beeny, Esquire,  and the Doctor who extracted the known and accurately labeled tissue samples of Elvis Presley, denoting a 1975 liver biopsy tissue, and a sample allegedly from Elvis' autopsy in 1977. 
 
Commission officials have been assured that the "Chain of Custody" in the handling of the tissues in question were handled both professionally and cautiously.  The submission of the samples were sent to LabCorp, a well known lab with offices nationwide, under a "John Doe" designation, and all rules were followed to the letter with regard to typical DNA testing principles. 
 
At this time, this office considers this matter closed, and that the results of both DNA tests conducted and directed by the Beeny firm, as well as the follow up test by Fox News more recently, is accepted as vital and accurate evidence that the death of Elvis Presley didnot occur in 1977, nor has their been any evidence indicating that he has passed since that time. 
 
Thank you.
 
P.W. "Phil" Aitcheson
National Director (RET)
Liaison Official

Conny (Germany) #2: Today I've noticed the pivture of Jimmy singing in the studioand maybe I have anything better maybe you should watch the right side (seen by Jimmy's view it's the left side) look the hand, the braclett and the way he's holding his hand...........I bet that's Elvis !!!!!!!!!!..............


William (re sympathy card): Great job Rogier van Luyken
 
And the general public wonders why some still question stories that are told from the "insiders". 
 
So now I'm wondering why it is spelled Aaron on the tombstone?  All these years I just threw that aside as no big deal and now surfaces a sympathy card, and it's Aron?
 
Did one person order the tombstone and another order the sympathy cards?
 
AJ # 10 - AJ's final word: The only thing I wanted you to see is you've placed all your beliefs in ones that only speak bad of Elvis Presley and his fans. It is just as illogical and misdirected as the ones that have started churches in his honor. EP never wanted anyone to worship him. I'm sure, dead or alive, neither would he appreciate the venom that spews from some of these authors mouths. He was/is just a man. No better or worse than you or I. You're right. Enough has been said. Leave him alone.!
 
TJ (FECC board): It's all utter crap of course. The biggest nutjob of them all is certainly Mary Smiley. She's not only delusional, but also mean spirited and twisted. There are some very odd claims from her, including:
 
Elvis didn't sing a note on any of his studio recordings. He couldn't sing, so a string of other performers stood in for him in the studio, ranging from Vince Everett to Ronnie Milsap, to Jimmy Ellis. According to her, Clean Up Your Own Backyard is Milsap. She'll make ridiculous statements like "If you hear Jerry Reed's and Elvis' versions of US Male, you'll realise it's the same person". Er only if you suffer from advanced hearing loss!
 
Elvis mimed in his concerts to vocals pre-recorded by others......Gladys and Vernon were never married....Gladys used to be a prostitute and never undertook normal paid employment in her life....Elvis died in 1997 in Ohio.
 
Yes, Smiley's claims aren't just daft, they are seriously offensive.
 
I haven't even included her most offensive claims because they are pure filth. The woman isn't just amusingly eccentric, she is a nasty piece of work. As Smiley makes such ludicrous claims, you might think that a serious author would steer clear of her, but unfortunately Alannah Nash used her as a source for her Elvis and the Colonel book. That, coupled with Nash's involvement in the ridiculous Playboy article, doesn't say a lot for the woman's integrity.
 
Melanie (FECC board): Interesting and insightful article. I had heard of the underground with only a fraction of the claims and had a good laugh about it. But now those people are genuinely freaking me out. How many followers are there? Please don't tell me they march infront of TV cameras? If they ever find Brigadoon on a map, call me.
 
Andrew (FECC board): I agree with Melanie - interesting yet unsettling.
 
I can't see how the 'Is ELvis Alive' thing started really - did events surrounding his death not add up at the time? (I wasn't around in 1977). In the main the whole story seems to be the domain of the gutter press and wackos.
 
Although I was shocked for a second when an email from Elvis Presley flashed up in my inbox once - it was an advert for E1 I think.
 
JeroenNL (FECC board) #2: Andrew, There really are facts and circumstances that don't add up surrounding his death. Problem is that only the 'loony toony news' about Elvis is known to the public... such as 'Elvis In A UFO' or 'Elvis Spotted At Burger King', etc. etc. Horrible.
 
Weird thing is that the release of the FBI Files, giving us a whole new story of what happened in the last year of his life, was hardly picked up on by the serious press. Strange things have happened but they might not have anything to do with Elvis being alive. The problem is that EPE or FBI will not give any answers to serious questions and a large portion of the FBI File still remains classified.
 
Gail: This whole thing suggests to me a lot of Elvis fans have too much time on their hands.
 
Fred (England): What a load of codswallop! I'm speechless at this ridiculous pile of crap. Elvis inspired the world with his music and all you can do is spoil it with "cuckoo's nest" sprouting.
 
Jennifer: A stimulating piece, obviously designed to prey on the unconscious needs of the uneducated. Haven't had such a good laugh for ages.
 
Inga: ABBA rules!
 
Added post 6 May 2006

K.C. (FECC board): The King is gone, let it be and give him and his memory peace. Just enjoy the great heritage he left. If we as fans can't stop this ridiculous discussion, why should the tabloids.

Betty (USA): Thanks for the interesting article.


Jim: The article was a joke, right?


Elvis4ever: Love this conspiracy stuff!!!! Funny how many Elvis fans live in their own world far away from reality.


Jeannie: Who is the Presley Commission? Is it part of EPE? I've never heard of it before.


Bullfrog: Its actually quite sad when people like the Presley Commission have to give themselves a sense of importance in something that is basically none of their business.


Brad (USA): Where does this Phil Aitcheson guy get off! He has no standing whatsoever in Elvis' death. As for this AJ character what a nutter he is. He seems to be a very unfulfilled individual. Still they're good for a laugh.


ep blvd: For all of you who are ridiculing those who have questions about the death of Elvis, you shouldn't be so pompous and condescending.  Most of the people that you are condemning have spent quite a bit more time researching the death of Elvis than the rest of you.  Even more so than some authors who have written books on the subject or life of Elvis.

Someone here suggested that some of the posters must have a lot of times on their hands?   That might be true, but the people I know have an intellectual curiousity and a real good B.S. detector.

Very few here have emphatically claimed Elvis to be alive, only that they have serious questions about that day.

Historian Gerald W Johnson says:

"Nothing changes more constantly than the past; for the past that influences our lives does not consist of what actually happened, but of what man recorded"


Added 11 May 2006

johnnyelvis1@webtv.net: Elvis wrote me and said things that know one else would know I drove
for Mr. Elvis And Vernon ( Daddy ). w/b. Thank You, ...Thank you very much. And may God Bless you.


Conny (in Germany) #3 (Cora1RS@aol.com): Dear EP Blvd. Today I've read this (written by yourself) and I just can say thank you so much !!So I don't belong to "dreaming people" or to the people who have too much timein the hands that's nonsens I'm 41 years old and surely I have my own life andmy own problems and I can't accept those who claiming we're not living in the realitiy .....I mean Elvis was a big and the best entertainer we ever had and he had much money and he had people which were able to help him out whatever happened August 16,1977 .....That's Amerika the land of the free that's what I heard much timesand the same with Amerika the land of the unlimited possibilities.....But what's now ?I wonder about people who telling us we're not living in the reality won't they accept Elvis could faked his death and disappoint his fans with his handeling or won't theyaccept that's Amerika land of the unlimited possibilities ?I think they have no rights to judge about us I ask them now Where Are The Proofs ElvisReally Died ? From where they're knowing Elvis did not faked his death ??? However thank you EP Blvd. Conny in Germany. In addition: If Elvis faked his death I can understand him very well!!

Bill Beeny: This is my first correspondence with EIN. Isn't it great that here in the U.S.A. we can publicly disagree with one another, challenge the other man's facts, etc.? Where else but in this country could this be done? I have read with interest the some 30 - 40 pages about the"dead/live" issue concerning Elvis. Tons of theories, hypothesis, speculations, etc. It is all very interesting and I think you have done a superb job in moderating, even though you don't necessarily agree with me. I give you an A+ in your effort.

It is not my intention to be a regular and spend valuable time debating all those who disagree with me. Having said this let me set forth some FACTS that your viewers may want to consider:The whole discussion about Elvis should be conducted on a higher plane. Name calling, castigating those you disagree with, speculating on their motives, should be stopped because it only generates more heat than it does light. If we want to revere the memory of Elvis (believing he died) or desire to honor him now, (believing he is alive) I feel that we should discuss the issues in a civil and respectful manner. This is what I intend to do. I ask all who read this to consider the following:
 
Fact 1.  Everyone who believes Elvis did not die in 1977 is not a "kook", "crazy", "nuts". There are literally millions of Elvis fans who genuinely believe he is alive. They are not all kooky people. When I do a radio or television interview, (and I've done hundreds) on rare occasions the host will start out by calling me a nut or crazy. I simply tell them they should not be interviewing crazy people, abort the interview, walk away, or hang up. When we first opened the Elvis Is Alive Museum, the popular show A Current Affair came out and did an interview. They had such a huge response, they replayed the taped film several times. The producer called me and said they wanted to run a poll on the "dead/alive" issue. Thousands called in on the poll line. The result was the overwhelming majority believed Elvis was ALIVE. So the"Kooks" outnumbered the sane ones.
 
Fact 2.  Some of your people accused me of getting into this issue "just to make money off Elvis". The truth of the matter is I am approaching my 80th birthday and I hope to live long enough to recoup just a little of the money I have spent on this investigation. The Elvis Museum I opened has always been FREE to any Elvis fans who wanted to visit, and there have been thousands.Now, if this had been a money making idea you would think I would charge a few bucks each. I I had, I would be thousands of dollars better off.

I have been on practically every major news outlet in the U.S.A., and never been paid one cent for an interview, nor asked to be paid. Currently my book, "ELVIS DNA PROVES HE"S ALIVE" is still in the RED.

Because of the high cost of DNA testing and many other investigative costs I will lose money on the book. BUT, this whole project was not to make money. If it had been I would have approached it differently. It started out as a hobby and still remains so. I have been in real estate as a developer for 47 years. I am also a retired Baptist minister. Through the years the bulk of the real estate funds have gone back into our Christian endeavors. Gospel radio and television programs, youth ranch for underprivileged children, rescue mission for homeless and alcoholics. So, the Elvis Museum has NEVER been my source of living.

Fact 3.  Now, the DNA. I am amazed that so many EXPERTS seem to know more about the DNA samples of Elvis than my attorney son and I do, yet none of them were there?  Here are the facts. Andrew, my son, and I were doing interviews  in Memphis, Tennessee by telephone, to a popular radio show called "THE WAKE UP CREW". On this particular day Andrew was doing the show. A doctor called in and asked Andrew to call him off air. Andrew did and the doctor asked both of us to come to Memphis. He indicated he had considerable information about Elvis and his death. We agreed to go. When we arrived at the doctor's home we found him to be very congenial, extremely intelligent, an obviously successful physician. He showed us a file with records of every occasion Elvis had been in the hospital. He showed a copy of the full autopsy report. (On EIN you reported that it had been sealed by the family for 25 years. I think what you meant to say was that it had been sealed by court order until 2025.) The doctor let us read the autopsy report, but not copy it. He then produced two slides in which were encased tiny pinpoint specimens of Elvis' liver. One from 1973, and one from 1975. The doctors had felt that Elvis might have hepatitis, which had taken the life of his mother, Gladys. These slides were marked with numbers which corresponded with Elvis' hospital records. Then the doctor showed us a parafin block that had a much larger specimen of flesh. This was from the cadaver purported to be Elvis. It, as well, was marked by numbers indicating it was tissue from Elvis.
    

Then a discussion ensued as to whether Elvis was dead or alive. The doctor said he felt Elvis died in 1977. Andrew said he didn't know. I stated that I believed that Elvis did not die in 1977 as reported. After a lengthy discussion the doctor agreed to let us use the tissue samples to send to a DNA laboratory on one condition. He stated that he had a successful practice, was extremely busy and did not want to be embroiled in a controversy with Graceland or anyone else. He asked the two of us to never reveal his name. We promised, and we have kept our word. On one occasion a certain tabloid wanted to write the DNA story. We agreed, Andrew handled the negotiations. They were willing to pay a large amount of money. When it came down to the final negotiations they wanted several names of individuals who had given me information in confidence. This included the doctor. I told them I could not go back on my word. The deal was off. If I had no scruples, and wanted only to make a buck, I would have gone back on my word for money.

 
Fact 4.  When we decided to send in the samples the very first thing my attorney son brought up was "THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY'. Andrew stated that his law firm dealt with a lot of cases about child support that involved DNA in determining the fathers' identity, and that the chain of custody was extremely important. We spent a good deal of time discussing this, and Andrew was satisfied that the chain of custody could be met. Of course I am probably prejudiced toward my son, but he is an extremely meticulous attorney, and rarely loses a case. Concerning DNA samples, archeologists have discovered remains in ruins that have had NO chain of custody and successful DNA comparisons have been completed.
 
Fact 5.  Fox National News was conducting an investigation in the case of an individual who claimed he was Elvis. They contacted me and asked if they could have permission  to use our DNA markings and test them against the individual who claimed to be Elvis. The individual gave his DNA, I agreed to let them use our samples. They sent to an independent laboratory who thoroughly checked the chain of custody and redid the test. They came back with the report that our DNA test done at LabCorp was 100% correct. It also proved the individual was not Elvis.
 
Fact 6.  Last year I was at a book signing at Barnes and Nobles in Melbourne, Florida, for my DNA book. We had, over 200 different media from around the world who wanted interviews. Of course this was physically impossible. Starting in the morning we gave each of the media 10 minutes and did interviews until the time to do the book signing. After the book signing I had a midnight 1 hour show for Fox national radio with Allen Combs ( from the Hannity and Combs TV Show.)  Allen had on the show with him Fox contributor pathologist Dr. Botkin. Allen wanted to discredit my Elvis DNA test, so he said "Bill has tissues from the files of some rinky-dink pathologist, and continued by saying no credible pathologist would keep extra samples. Dr. Botkin asked me the pathologists name. I told him Dr. Harold Sexton. Dr. Botkin said, "Allen, Dr. Sexton of Memphis was a dean of pathology. Whatever he said you could take to the bank." Then Dr. Botkin continued,  "Allen as far as keeping extra samples, and especially in high profile cases, we always keep samples and copies of all reports in event we were ever sued. Dr. Sexton didn't keep this back up material because he was afraid of an "Elvis Is Alive" controversy. This was an ordinary precaution pathologists take when they are dealing with any high profile cases, especially in this "sue crazy" society.
 
Fact 7. Could Elvis pull off a faked death? When Phil Aitcheson and I were in New York debating some of the former bodyguards to Elvis on MSNBC, there was also a retired FBI agent on the program. The bodyguards insisted Elvis could never pul off faking his death. The MSNBC host asked the FBI agent if it were possible for Elvis to pull this off. Without hesitation he replied, it would have been very easy for Elvis to have faked his death, with or without the aid of the FBI. He stated that hundreds of people fake their deaths for insurance purposes.
 
Fact 8.  I contacted Elvis' one living aunt to do an interview. I and a friend who was a talk show host on KWRE radio at the time, drove to Memphis and met the aunt at a friend's home. We had a very good visit, lasting about 3 hours. In the course of the interview the aunt said that it was NOT her nephew Elvis in the casket. Later, she and her friend drove to St. Louis where we had set up a nationwide radio and television interview with them. The same facts she had told us were reiterated on national media.
 
Fact 9.  The aunt also told us that her husband, Elvis' uncle, had told her that Elvis had told him and Joe Esposito that he was going to make some changes, he was sick of being Elvis Presley. Further, that he had made arrangements with a terminally ill man, that when he died the world would think Elvis had died. The uncle further stated that Elvis was going to support the mans family as long as he lived. Elvis supposedly told the same story to some of his bodyguards in Billy Smiths trailer behind Graceland. Some of the bodyguards told the same story to a London newspaper, then denied it later, saying they were just kidding.
 

Fact 10.  Nigel, I apologize for the length of this e-mail. It is hard to get everything conveyed in a short space, and I have omitted 95% of what I intended to say. In closing, I will rest my case. I do not wish to be coming back every day or so to rebut with someone who objects. In 4 months I will be 80 years old. I have my real estate business. I have my ministry raising funds for several missionaries who are feeding the starving people in Africa, Phillipines, Mexico and Indonesia, as well as promoting the gospel of of Christ. I was a friend of J.D. Sumner, who often spoke of the faith of Elvis. He was far more spiritual than most people ever realized. Not a perfect man, but who of us are? Elvis would often say in concert, I am not the king...Jesus Christ is the only King. On our Migghty Stream Radio.Com we have Elvis on all night,  from 12:00 A.M. until 6:00 A.M. We have been blown away by the interest in our stream radio site. Last month our PR firm recorded 323,578 inquiries about Mighty Stream Radio and the DNA book. This shows the tremendous popularity of the "poor boy from Tupelo."

Regardless of which side of the issue, let us be civil, compassionate, and respectful of each others opinions. And, Nigel, keep up the good work. Thousands of Elvis fans depend on your web site for their information. God bless you and may God richly bless Elvis Aaron Presley. 

EIN Response: EIN respects the points made by Bill and thanks him for responding to our article. We'll leave it readers to assess the relative merits of each case and make up their own mind as to whether or not Elvis died on August 16, 1977.


Added 12 May 2006

Marty Lacker #2: I just read some of the comments made in response to Beeny's story and my comments especially about Aaron.

The response of a couple of them is a perfect example of why some of us who were close to Elvis really don't explain how it was all those years and what truthfully transpired. I have no reason to lie about the recounting of that story in 1966, anyone who knows me knows that I am not in need of pats on the back or to make myself look special to anyone.

As for the guy who asked my comments on Operation Fountain Pen and if Elvis was in danger, that too is a myth.  Nobody was after Elvis, no mafia, nobody.  The crap that he went into hiding and is alive today is not only ludicrous it's a total disservice to Elvis to think that he would do something like that. If he was tired of the spotlight he'd just retire and quit being in it.

However, after saying that someone will probably dispute that in those comments.

Everyone needs to stop buying into all the crap about Elvis is alive from Beeny or anyone else.  Unfortunately ELVIS IS DEAD, he physically died on August 16,1977 and anyone who listens to and believes these con artists or nutcases that say differently is pathetic.

Phil Aitcheson (Presley Commission, USA) #8: First, let me say thanks to Bill Beeny for articulating his positioning in the matter of Elvis Presley admirably, and those that represent the investigations that have ensued over the years, including the current one by EIN has contributed some very important talking points. 

One thing I want readers to know, that the idea for The Presley Commission's investigation from 1992 through 1994, and years following, was not conceived by self appointment.  It was a legitimate non-profit organisation originally created in North Carolina for the purpose of conducting a private and professional study of Elvis Presley's life, focusing on the years from 1968 to the current day.  This mean't that all information would be obtained, reviewed, discussed, and disseminated according to its importance, all of which, conveyed aspects of Elvis' personal situation during the last 9 years of his life as an entertainer.   The activities explored in the commission's efforts were of an extracurricular nature, in many instances.  Hours of interviews were conducted with parties that represented a wide range of experiences, involvements, and knowledge of the man, from many positions and connections to Elvis, his family, employees, and of course, government related contacts. 

Documents brought forth in previous investigations were examined, and disseminated as a result of the efforts of experts and knowledgeable people.  The research was viably and acceptibly verifiable and provided the backdrop of the concerns and efforts of Commission officials. The commission was created independently, but sanctioned and approved by previous investigative professionals who supported our interest to conduct this study.

 
The positioning on the matters of recent DNA tests managed by the Beeny organisation, and discussed in the book "Elvis' DNA Proves He's Alive" by Dr. Bill Beeny is accepted as a truthful accounting of the methodology pertaining to the testing of tissue samples belonging to Elvis Presley.  This publication is considered accepted reading, and a copy of the book is a part of the commission library. 
 
It is the contention of the commission as well as this office, that Elvis Presley didnot die in August of 1977, as reported and that actual government files and other documents provide plenty of evidence supporting this position.  Literally thousands have accepted the results of this investigative effort.  Those who have decided to air on the side of detrimental portrayances toward anyone is unconscionable, and really not in the spirit of the kind and respected nature of the man we all remember. 
 
It is my hope, and although I am nearing the end of my participation in the great debate, people will view this man and his life as a celebration, not a proving ground for continual attacks and disagreement.  God Bless Elvis, and those who have shared his greatness in good and positive measure.
 
Sincerely,
 
P. W. "Phil" Aitcheson
National Director (RET)
The Presley Commission
Liaison Office 
 
Added 13 May 2006

Sue (EPE123) #3: This response is to Mr. Lacker's latest message. Firstly, I wish you would STOP the name calling, OK? No one, especially myself have not stooped that low. You believe what you like about Elvis and/or he being alive. You, my sir, have a big head, and over the years have done nothing but gone around telling everyone you were close to Elvis. Fine. That is wonderful for you. I don't much care. But you are mistaken about the "Aaron" spelling, and you know it. Thank you!!!!


Sue (EPE123) #4: Just a few more comments to Mr. Lacker...
 
Mr. Lacker - we all know just how Lisa feels about the so-called-memphis-mafia, don't we? You don't know me from a hole in the wall. I don't need to blast it all over the world and internet knowing Elvis as you and other have chosen to do. You never were TRUE friends of Elvis'....you know that and Elvis knew that. What did he call you? Hanger-ons. And that is what you were and still are. Some nerve calling people names. Grow up.

Added 14 May 2006

AJ (returns): In response to: member  of MM and co-best man at Elvis' wedding. {pretty funny}

If he can say  Elvis wasn't threatened or was the target of extortion he needs to read the FBI files http://news.lp.findlaw.com/legalnews/entertainment/fbi/elvis/elvis00001.html

He's also said he was NOT at the funeral/viewing in Memphis of the alleged body of EP. Would appear he couldn't know  Elvis died either. He might  want to talk to Mr Wedick to see about the "myth" of Operation Fountain Pen" too.http://www.fraudspecialists.com/investigative_profile.html


AJ: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7833922/

NBC News has learned that Winfield, who met with Ney in London, is a three-time convicted felon who spent more than six years in prison. He cheated on his taxes and was involved in a deal to swindle Elvis Presley.


Added 18 May 2006

Jim Fay: There is one thing that does not add up. Elvis died during the recording of his last album "Moody Blue." The recording took place at the Presley mansion, in what is known today as "The Jungle Room." The room was designed to bring the recording studio to him. Anyone who knows anything about recording an album could tell you that music could not be recorded in that room as it is, the acoustics would be terrible. My question is if the room was a recording studio, containing only recording equipment, and Elvis died during the recording, then who decorated that room? They say it was Elvis' favorite room.

EIN Response: The 'Moody Blue" album was actually recorded in the Jungle Room on October 29 & 30, 1976 with additional "live" tracks taken from Elvis' April 1977 concert shows.

Ernst Jorgensen states in his excellent book on Elvis' recording sessions, Elvis Presley A Life In Music The Complete Recording Sessions:

"Nashville engineer Brian Christian was sent out two weeks before the session to assess the working conditions and work out how to prepare the room to allow each musician some degree of isolation and headset communication. There were certainly problems to be overcome; all the walls had to be draped with heavy moving blankets to dampen the acoustics."

Ernst goes on to say how the electrical needs were more than adequately covered when Brian was amazed to find 700 amps available for his purposes!


Briony: Your article was very interesting. One thing I've always wondered about is the rigor mortis and why the paramedics tried to revive Elvis?

EIN Response: The rigor mortis issue is an interesting, but on analysis, unremarkable one.

In its timeline of events on August 16, 1977, the Presley Commission claims (the claim is also stated in Dr Beeny's book):

"The medics continued CPR, despite the body being Rigor-Mortised and
with Lividity."

Rigor mortis is the rigid stiffening of skeletal and cardiac muscle which begins shortly after death. As Thompson & Cole correctly note in their book, the process of rigor mortis is a gradual one, affected by environmental conditions, and EIN notes it can take many hours to complete.

Lividity is a tissue condition of being red or blue because of venous (vein) congestion.

In the absence of viewing the Presley Commission Report, it appears the source for the claim is from a number of members of the Memphis Mafia. EIN has sought clarification on this issue from Phil Aitcheson.

In the book, The Death of Elvis What Really Happened, by Thompson & Cole, the authors state:

"The two technicians were unable to find any vital signs of life...His body was cool and beginning to stiffen....As the ambulance raced toward the hospital, the signs of rigor mortis were spreading."

Similarly, Dick Grob, a seasoned law enforcement officer and someone experienced with the clinical indicators of deceased persons, wrote in his book, The Elvis Conspiracy, that on arriving at the Trauma Room of Baptist Memorial, after 2.45pm on 16 August 1977:

"I noticed that rigor mortis had not yet set in. Although I did not touch his body, I could see the ease with which the medical personnel were moving the various parts of his body. I also saw the absence of any marked postmortem lividity from Elvis' still body. I observed that his color was gone and a slight blue cast was present."

It is likely the onset of rigor mortis in Elvis progressed slowly. It is well documented how Elvis liked his room temperatures kept very low, and a low environmental temperature would have acted to slow the rigor mortis process.

So who do we believe? The accounts of trained paramedics and a seasoned law enforcement officer familar with the state of a recently deceased body, or the Presley Commission's claim which appears to be based on comments from one or more persons untrained regarding the clinical stages of death?

EIN will be very interested in Phil Aitcheson's response on this issue, but in the absence of compelling factual evidence to the contrary, EIN does not believe there is a material issue regarding rigor mortis and lividity.


Added 19 May 2006

Cory Cooper (ElvisExpert@aol.com): If any of the Alive/Faked death stories were true, it would be one of the biggest stories in the history of the media but its not and all we really hear about is a few blurbs on websites, message boards, tabloids and once in a while something on a television show. The reason its not a huge story is because it didn't happen and there is no evidence to even remotely suggest that it did. Its a small group of people and the overzealous writers that keep this irrational and ridiculous belief going and the occasional media story that gives it about as much credit as a sideshow.

DNA evidence is completely useless if its not divulged where and how the samples were obtained and be able to prove they are indeed actual samples of the subject. If that does exist, then why has it not been given to the media to prove their case? The answer is because they only want to give out what they want you to believe that will fit their story.

The burden of proof is on the people that believe the alive nonsense and that will not happen because there is no story to be proven. To even believe such a story you would have to suggest that the huge amount of people that it would have taken to pull off such a plot would have never said anything. This would have had to involve some people that had no connection to Elvis and just happened to be there. That would go against all conventional wisdom and human nature that after almost 30 years that nobody would have said anything.  


EP BLVD: Mr Lacker, thanks for the response regarding Operation Fountain Pen and the possibility of Elvis being in danger.  That is a long and twisting mountain of paper from the FBI that is hard to understand and read and come up with proof of danger for Elvis.  But these were bad guys.

However, I have to take exception with you as you continue to refer to the nutcases, and pathetic people who believe Elvis to be alive.

Did you or did you not, tell a tabloid (along with Billy Smith) that Elvis had hoaxed his death?How many millions do you believe read that story at that time, and how many more have had access to it since the internet makes it available to millions more over time?  Is it possible that you might be responsible for quite a
few people believing what you said?  What in the world would possess you to tell that story, knowing the Elvis fans as you do? If we can't believe you, who can we believe?

johnnym: TOTAL BULLSHIT!


AJ: In the book, The Death of Elvis What Really Happened, by Thompson & Cole, the authors state:"The two technicians were unable to find any vital signs of life...His body was cool and beginning to stiffen....As the ambulance raced toward the hospital, the signs of rigor mortis were spreading."

I would hope the EMT's would recognize the S&S of rigor. My question about this "story" was why in the world the patient wasn't taken to the nearest hospital. That is the procedure. That wasn't BMH !! You will also find in this book that the teeth were said to be smashed b/c of administering CPR. Yet you'll see in several other books; the teeth were perfectly fine.

Similarly, Dick Grob, a seasoned law enforcement officer and someone experienced with the clinical indicators of deceased persons, wrote in his book, The Elvis Conspiracy, that on arriving at the Trauma Room of Baptist Memorial, after 2.45pm on 16 August 1977.

Similarly, you will also find in another book you mention that Dick Grob had to admit, in court, that he was never told EP had bone cancer either.{As he states in HIS book}  I'd be very careful of anything Dick Grob says.

So here is just a small part of the discrepancies you find in any and all books. It's best to look for oneself and make your own decisions. Yet some wonder why we still question? Intelligence!!


Rogier van Luyken #3: Please note that the ambulance personel have been quoted right after they returned from Graceland that 'they did not recognize the body as being Elvis Presley... It had turned so blue they thought they picked up a coloured guy'.
 
Give me some time and I will find the source for this statement. Also please note that the 2 ambulance man were told by their superiors they could not speak with anyone about all they saw and went through for a couple of hours after they returned to their station!! (this was metioned by one of them in an article in the Commercial Appeal on August 17th, 1977).

Patrick Lacy #4: I wanted to offer some context to the analysis on the rigor mortis question you posted on EIN.  On the issue of whether rigor mortis was present or not when Elvis's body was found, you cite the Presley Commission, who say the body was in the stages of RM, and then you cite the Cole/Thompson book, which tells us that RM was not noticed, or was not pronounced, until Elvis's body was in the ambulance on the way to BMH.  Two conflicting sides, which is typical.  You then cite Grob's determination, saying that his conclusions are acceptable because he is a seasoned law enforcement officer and he was familiar with "the state of a recently deceased body." 

There are some facts/claims to consider here: 

1.  You write that, "The two technicians were unable to find any vital signs of life...His body was cool and beginning to stiffen....As the ambulance raced toward the hospital, the signs of rigor mortis were spreading," citing the Cole/Thompson book. 

However, the observation about his body being cool and beginning to stiffen was offered by the paramedics when they viewed the body at Graceland, not during the ambulance ride to BMH.  This tells us that Crosby and/or Jones observed rigor mortis before the ambulance left the property. 

2.  The PC made the claim that RM was present, and you discount this claim based on the Cole/Thompson book, and on Grob's statement.  As I said, though, the Cole/Thompson book does refer to RM while the body was still in the bathroom (based on the observations from Crosby and/or Jones).  What is omitted from this analysis is the fact that others present in the bathroom before the body was removed to the ambulance have also said that the body showed signs of RM.  To wit, Joe Esposito makes the claim, Goldman makes the claim in both of his books (based on his interviews), Jerry Hopkins makes the claim (based on his interviews), and Dan Warlick said that livor mortis had set in when he viewed the body at BMH.  Livor mortis would not be present without rigor mortis. 

3.  Dick Grob admittedly observed the body from outside the emergency room.  Such a location is hardly conducive to reaching these types of conclusions.  And, Grob is the only person to make this claim; no one else says that rigor mortis had not set in by that time. 

Also, Dr. Nichopoulos is quoted as saying, "I should’ve realized that as stiff as Elvis’s body was that he’d been dead for some time.”  Even if he made this observation upon first seeing Elvis in the ambulance, it still tells us that RM would have been present when Elvis was still on the bathroom floor just minutes prior.

While I disagree with the Presley Commission and Phil Aitcheson on nearly every claim they make, the observations on rigor mortis are not from them only, and all the claims should be considered.  As I said, Dick Grob, from outside the emergency room, is the only person to make the claim that RM was not present, and he simply was not in the position to make such a determination.

Added 21 May 2006

AJ (responds to Cory Cooper's comments added 19 May):

Cory Cooper (ElvisExpert@aol.com): If any of the Alive/Faked death stories were true, it would be one of the biggest stories in the history of the media .

AJ: Boy is that true, Cory.

Cory: Its a small group of people and the overzealous writers that keep this irrational and ridiculous belief going and the occasional media story that gives it about as much credit as a sideshow.

AJ: That's where you're wrong. There are thousands of people that believe EP didn't die in 1977.
The sideshow started with Goldman and others  like him. They are the ones that turned this into a gross,evil  laughing matter. Most of us are very serious in asking and looking for answers to our questions.
Why are people like you afraid of the answers?

Cory: DNA evidence is completely useless if its not divulged where and how the samples were obtained and be able to prove they are indeed actual samples of the subject. If that does exist, then why has it not been given to the media to prove their case? The answer is because they only want to give out what they want you to believe that will fit their story.

AJ: The answer is ; it has been answered. Mr Beeny told how the doctor obtained the samples; a courier came from the Lab and signed for them. Then the pathologist had to sign for them before doing his tests. If you take the time to look, it's said Fox News had the same tests ran with the same conclusions. The only problem I see is that the doctor wanted to remain anonymous, as he lived and had his practice in Memphis. Do you have witnesses that wish to remain anonymous? I know Nigel does, he told me.

EIN Comment: AJ's approach to these sort of issues is interesting. The fact that other parties, including Dr Beeny, have unnamed sources is apparently not an issue for him. But twice now he has tried to make an issue with EIN over it having one unnamed source, and now with Cory Cooper in a similar vein.

For the record, the issue AJ is alluding to is a comment we received after publishing our article. It came from an experienced person in the law enforcement field who agreed with our conclusion regarding the chain of custody issue, but who wished to remain anonymous. Two other similar comments from experienced investigation and law enforcement personnel were made by JNA & Associates, Investigative Consultants (who assisted EIN the preparation of our article) and police investigator, Malcolm Bright (see 3 May 2006).

Agendas like AJ's serve little useful purpose in the debate as they are easily identified and simply draw attention to inconsistency on the part of the complainer.

Cory: The burden of proof is on the people that believe the alive nonsense and that will not happen because there is no story to be proven. To even believe such a story you would have to suggest that the huge amount of people that it would have taken to pull off such a plot would have never said anything. This would have had to involve some people that had no connection to Elvis and just happened to be there. That would go against all conventional wisdom and human nature that after almost 30 years that nobody would have said anything.  
 
AJ: This would take only about 4 or 5 people. {some are dead now}  There have been people that talked, no one believed them. The burden of proof  that it was EP in that coffin will always be with the people that says it is. They left too many questions unanswered. Wisdom cannot be had without true facts. Human nature is to lie and protect.


Added 22 May 2006

Cory Cooper (ElvisExpert@aol.com): The comments by AJ once again prove and enhance the importance and need for Patrick Lacy's book.  Thank you AJ for proving perfectly the case for his book. Its the misinformation and confusion like this that were part of the catalyst for the book to begin with. Your comments could not have better illustrated the need for Patrick's research.

Added 23 May 2006

Rhinestone: I hope that EIN holds Mr. Lacy's book to the same standards as it's done with Mr. Beeny's book.  I'll be interested in seeing how Mr. Lacy "proves" his claims.

EIN Response: We intend reviewing Elvis Decoded when it is released.


Added 26 May 2006

Ginny Raspberry: In regard to the book Mr Lacy is bringing out. Doesn't he know this has all been written about and "investigated" before?

If the excerpts are any indication, I can't see where he brings anymore out that hasn't already been said. In my opinion, it is just more of the same. And bingo, another person makes money off Elvis Presley. Too bad.

EIN Comment: It is important to note that "Elvis Decoded" is about a lot more than just the Elvis alive conspiracy. It addresses claims of illegitimate children, the Forest Hill Cemetery break-in, Elvis' last will and a lot more. While many of these stories in the Elvis world have been researched written about before "Elvis Decoded" will have value by bringing all the stories into one book.


Added 2007

James Warner: My name is James Warner and I am an Elvis Expert at AllExperts.com. I would like to say a big THANK YOU for your awesome, thorough website on Elvis Presley. I am HOOKED! I have GOT to air my opinion (please feel free to put this on your site). I am NOT upset at EIN, but am rather grateful for bringing this subject up for conversational/educational purposes.

First, I have read the remarks by Bill Beeny, AJ, Phil Aitchinson, and others and I am stunned by the amount of ludicrous speculations surrounding the whole 'Elvis Is Alive/DNA" theory. It's like the friggin' Kennedy assassination! Who was here? Who was there? Who said this? Who said that? Elvis told me this! While their have been some good coments and speculations posted, there have been some that are totally S-T-U-P-I-D. Let me find another way to spell STUPID. How's M-A-R-Y S-M-I-L-E-Y? How does this woman get off with her boisterous claims that Ronny Milsap did the vocals on some of Elvis' songs? FACT: Ronnie DID provide harmonizing vocals on a few tracks for Elvis. I have recorded 61 songs in a studio and I know the difference between "Lead Vocal" and "Background Vocals".
 

Second: Why do people attack Marty Lacker? Marty is an honest, sincere person and his words should hold some merit. Hell, he was there, wasn't he? Yes! Who cares if he wasn't Elvis' favorite guy all the time! Nobody was. Is it fair for someone WHO WAS NOT THERE to openly attack Marty. NO! I, as a reader/everyday Elvis fan, could easily say that Marty is full of s__t. However, i don't think that. I was three and a half years old when Elvis died and all I know about Elvis is from what I've read and heard. I wasn't around him. Marty was. Marty should know what Elvis was like. Should he be able to recall every conversation with exact precision...remembering on what date a specific thing  was said. What color tie Vernon Presley was wearing during a particular conversation? Of course not! We are all human. We all forget things. But when Marty Lacker does it...man, the game is on!

I was particularly irked by some woman's response to him. She basically stated, "You weren't even there. You claim to be his best friend. You were a hanger-on" BACK UP! Where did Marty claim this? Marty has always told it like it was. He doesn't candycoat anything and you know what? Plus, those of us containing a functional brain in our skull KNOW that Marty didn't go on all of the talk shows with a posterboard around his neck which read, "I was Elvis' best friend". Don't we? I RESPECT HIM FOR THAT!!! Marty may say that he doesn't care what people think of him, but I bet he does. He has never done a bad thing to Elvis or the fans. Damn it, Marty...somebody likes you!

3. The whole DNA controversy: Again, I would like to thank EIN for being unbiased in this whole thing. NOTE: When EIN makes an interjection, they back it up with facts...unlike alot of others.
I am a factual person. Tell me something and I want to see the proof. Did Beeny and his group compare several KNOWN samples of DNA to the cadaver sample? Was the name Ethel Moore mentioned anywhere in the report. This was a fictional name used on all samples taken from the corpse on August 16, 1977. It was used to deter curiosity seekers from tampering with the samples taken from the body.

4. FBI FILES: How can we know for certain that an author cannot have someone "create" an alternative page, using computers and a little imagination. We know, FOR A FACT, that the FBI blacks out any information it may deem as "too touchy" for the public's eyes. One could certainly use a computer to duplicate the size, font and other characteristics of the original equipment used on the originals. A perfect example of how one could benefit would be the "Operation Fountain Pen" deal. What a crock! We all know that there were problems with Elvis' jets, Vernon, a lease agreement, etc. However, there are several versions of that whole scenario.  

Did Gail Brewer-Georgio stay up all night to dream that one up? Plus, she hired a sound-a-like to record the "elusive" mystery phone call. Remember? It was attached to the cover of her best-selling book. The guy came forward later to claim that HE was the voice on the tape and HAD PROOF. There's the key word: PROOF.

5. I noticed that some "character" remarked that EIN's report sucked. WRONG! We should be thankful for EIN and their hard work. We, as Elvis fans,  deserve a forum like this. If that person doesn't like the report then they should not be on the site. Right?
 
In summary, I believe Marty Lacker made a very good point. It is my opinion that Elvis Presley died on August 16, 1977. I believe that Elvis Presley is buried in that copper casket, which lies in the Meditation Garden. Think of this: If Elvis was indeed tired of being Elvis...he would have just quit the business. Be it temporarily or permanently. In the sixties, his time was spent making movies and relaxing in L.A. or Memphis. He would have just stepped back and took a break, right? I believe so. He was constantly involved with diferrent things. He bored quickly. Gosh! That's why he returned to the stage in 1969. He couldn't stand making any more movies. He missed performing for his fans and his personal gratification. Wouldn't a hoaxed death put a damper on a comeback or return to the spotlight? You bet.
                                                            

Ronny (USA): Get over it! Elvis died in 1977. For anyone to believe Elvis is still alive at 72 years is ludicrous.


Brenda Forbes: After the darkness there is always light and that light shines brighter the second time around. Elvis is alive today as he was in 1954. Rock a hula, rock a hula...


Frank Simpson: I thought your article was thought provoking. Whether or not it answers the core question is questionable. Bill Beeny has a lot more knowledge of what happened than he is letting on.


Adele: There is no way Elvis is dead. Just listening to his new record you know its him. Noone but Elvis could have sung Suddenly as he does. He may be older now but we love him just as much as we did and we accept why he had to do what he did. As long as he is happy millions of fans will be happy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Quote:

"Elvis Presley is the supreme socio-cultural icon in the history of pop culture"

(Dr. Gary Enders)


Quote:

"Elvis is the 'glue' which holds our society together....which subconciously gives our world meaning"

(Anonymous)


Quote:

"Eventually everybody has to die, except Elvis"

(humorist Dave Barry)


Quote:

"He is the "Big Bang", and the universe he detonated is still expanding, the pieces are still flying"

(Greil Marcus, "Dead Elvis")


Quote:

"I think Elvis Presley will never be solved"

(Nick Tosches)


Quote:

"He was the most popular man that ever walked on this planet since Christ himself was here"

(Carl Perkins)


Quote:

"When I first heard Elvis' voice I just knew I wasn't going to work for anybody...hearing him for the first time was like busting out of jail"

(Bob Dylan)


Quote:

"When we were kids growing up in Liverpool, all we ever wanted was to be Elvis Presley"

(Sir Paul McCartney)


Quote:

"You can't say enough good things about Elvis. He was one of a kind"

(Johnny Cash)


Quote:

"And don't think for one moment he's just a passing fancy....he's got enough of it to keep him on top for a long time"

(R. Fred Arnold, Fury magazine, Aug 1957)


Quote:

"It isn't enough to say that Elvis is kind to his parents, sends money home, and is the same unspoiled kid he was before all the commotion began. That still isn't a free ticket to behave like a sex maniac in public"

(Eddie Condon, Cosmopolitan)


Elvis records reaching #2 & #3 on the Cashbox Pop Singles chart:

#2: A Fool Such As I (1959)

#2: A Big Hunk Of Love (1959)

#3: Hard Headed Woman (1958)

#3: One Night (1958)

#3: (You're The Devil) In Disguise (1963)


Elvis Facts:

Tickets for Elvis' show on March 29, 1957 in St. Louis cost $2.00 to $2.50

 

While in Germany Elvis was hospitalised with tonsillitis in October 1959

 

Despite being an illegal immigrant, photographic evidence shows Colonel Tom Parker traveled to Canada with Elvis in 1957

 

Elvis strongly believed there weren't enough good songs in King Creole to justify releasing a soundtrack album. RCA initially agreed, releasing two very successful EPs from the movie. A soundtrack LP eventually followed

 

During the 1960s Elvis had his own football team, Elvis Presley Enterprises, which played in the Menphis touch football league. In the 1962 final, EPE narrowlt lost to Delta Automatic Transmission. 6-13

 

In Clambake, (Elvis) Scott Hayward's driving licence shows February 23, 1940...taking 5 years off Elvis' real age

 

In the 1970s Elvis was ofered $5m to stage a concert in front of the Pyramids in Egypt. When the Colonel declined the offer, Saudi billionaires raised the offer to $10m